2009 Pre-WWII Players Results: 19th Century Stars White and Dahlen Get Our Vote!
With 97% support from BBTF voters, star backstop and third baseman Deacon White was the top Hall of Fame vote-getter for this election.
Not far behind, renowned shortstop Bill Dahlen received an equally impressive 94% of the votes.
Close but no cigar was Phillies slugger Sherry Magee, who just missed “induction” himself with 72% of the votes.
All-Star second baseman Joe Gordon, newly elected to the HOF, didn’t receive as much love with us. Only 56% of the ballots had his name on it.
As for our HoM subgroup, White and Dahlen were all unanimous picks, while Magee just made it over the line with his 79%.
Thanks to everyone who submitted a ballot or joined in the discussion! Thanks also to OCF for help with the tally!
RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
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1 n/e Deacon White 35 35
2 n/e Bill Dahlen 34 34
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3 n/e Sherry Magee 26 26
4 n/e Joe Gordon 20 20
5T 6 Wes Ferrell 7 7
5T n/e Vern Stephens 7 7
7 n/e Bucky Walters 3 3
8 13 Carl Mays 2 2
Dropped Out: Allie Reynolds(n/e), Mickey Vernon(17T).
Ballots Cast: 36
RK LY Player PTS Bal 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
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1T n/e Bill Dahlen 24 24
1T n/e Deacon White 24 24
3 n/e Sherry Magee 19 19
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4 3T Joe Gordon 10 10
5 6T Wes Ferrell 7 7
6 n/e Vern Stephens 4 4
7 n/e Bucky Walters 3 3
Dropped Out: Carl Mays(13), Allie Reynolds(n/e), Mickey Vernon(15T).
Ballots Cast: 24
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: January 12, 2009 at 03:02 AM (#3049129)So 15-7-1 for Dahlen suggests that most of this weeks voters have ranked their selections.
Oddly, this week's stray "number one" vote is reported inconsistently, cast once for Magee and once for Walters.
I'm not following that either.
That's because I'm using the HoM spreadsheet that I normally use to create the results for those elections. The funny thing is that I have used this in all of the other BBTF-HOF elections without, I believe, comment.
With that said, I erased the rank numbers for you.
It is also interesting to note that our non-HoM subgroup endorsed Joe Gordon with 10 votes on 12 ballots, while our HOM subgroup did not.
An interesting exercise (at least to me) would be to poll the electorate to determine who else the ballotters (both groups) would have voted for if not restricted to only 4 votes. (I know some people already answered that on their ballots.)
Tot HOM !HOM
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35 24 11 White
34 24 10 Dahlen
26 19 7 Magee
20 10 10 Gordon
7 7 0 Ferrell
7 4 3 Stephens
3 3 0 Walters
2 0 2 Mays
16 people did not vote for Gordon.
6 people cast short ballots.
4 people said nothing about extra votes.
6 people indicated they would have voted for Gordon if they had more votes.
AJM, DanR, Sean Gilman, and OCF: Would extra slots allow a vote for Gordon?
It did cost Magee. 2 people indicated they thought he was worthy but not top 4.
On the other other hand, I would have voted for Gordon too if I'd had extra slots.
Question for John and/or Joe: Would it make any sense to post a "2010 preliminary discussion" thread now?
Here's what I posted in the New Eligibles thread. I just updated WARP3 down thru Santiago. Gonzalez and Santiago arrive a year earlier than the BBWAA will consider them. The 2010 Discussion thread is definitely needed now.
2010 (December 7, 2009)—elect 3
WS W3 Rookie Name-Pos
376 132.6 1988 Roberto Alomar-2B
346 121,8 1986 Barry Larkin-SS
341 106.6 1987 Fred McGriff-1B
305 104.4 1989 Edgar Martinez-DH/3B
272 108.8 1990 Robin Ventura-3B
260 79.1 1987 Ellis Burks-CF/RF
234 74.9 1990 Juan Gonzalez-RF/LF*
227 70.3 1991 Ray Lankford-CF
221 62.9 1990 Todd Zeile-3B
190 67.2 1987 Benito Santiago-C*
183 56.5 1992 Eric Karros-1B
161 58.9 1987 Mark McLemore-2B
126 59.0 1992 Pat Hentgen-P
126 53.7 1987 Mike Jackson-RP
130 41.6 1991 David Segui-1B
128 41.6 1994 Fernando Viña-2B
106 44.8 1991 Rod Beck-RP (2007)
That's the 27th vote. Both Magee and Gordon would have been elected if the ballot structure did not restrict the number of "Yes" votes per ballot.
I'll post it after the election.
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