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Monday, December 22, 2014

2015 Election Results - Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez & Curt Schilling elected to the Hall of Merit!

Congratulations to the Class of 2015! Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez and Curt Schilling have been elected to the Hall of Merit.

The election was dominated by pitchers. In addition to the top 3, Mike Mussina was a strong 4th, followed closely by John Smoltz. Gary Sheffield and Sammy Sosa were 6th and 7th, both with enough support that their eventual election looks inevitable.

Moving further into the backlog Kenny Lofton, Buddy Bell, Jeff Kent, Luis Tiant, Ben Taylor and Vic Willis round out the top 10 runner-ups, meaning they will have to evaluated on every ballot, even if they aren’t voted for. Bobby Bonds, Sal Bando and Phil Rizzuto were in the pack right behind that group.

Here is the final tally:

Rk  LY  Player           Pts Bal   1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15
1   n/e Randy Johnson    816  34  34
2   n/e Pedro Martinez   775  34     32  1  1
3    4  Curt Schilling   661  33        22  7  1     3                
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4    5  Mike Mussina     552  33         3 19  5  5                    1
5   n/e John Smoltz      535  34         3  3 17  5  1  2     2     1
6   n/e Gary Sheffield   496  33      2  4     5 10  5  1     1     2  1     2
7    6  Sammy Sosa       331  28                  2  5  4  7  2  4  2  1  1
8    7  Kenny Lofton     203  17               2  3     2  2  2  2  2  2
9   11  Buddy Bell       188  18                  1  4  1     2  1  2  6     1
10   8  Jeff Kent        157  13         1  2        1  2  1  2        1  1  2
11   9  Luis Tiant       149  16                  1  1  2  1  1     2     5  3
12  13  Ben Taylor       117  11                     4  1  1        1     3  1
13  14  Vic Willis       116  13                           1  1  4  2  2  1  2
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14  10  Bobby Bonds      109  10               1     1     3     1  3        1
15  17  Sal Bando         96  10                           3     2  3     1  1
16  12  Phil Rizzuto      90   8                     1     3  2     2
17  21  Dick Redding      68   5               1  1     2     1
18  16  Gavy Cravath      67   7                  1           1  1  1  2     1
19  22  Hilton Smith      65   6                  1     2           2        1
20  18  Don Newcombe      63   7                        1        1  1  3  1
21T 15  Hugh Duffy        61   6                  1     1  1           1  1  1
21T 23T Bert Campaneris   61   6                        1  2     1     1     1
23  23T Tommy Bridges     59   5                     3           1        1
24  n/e Brian Giles       58   6                     1  1        1  1        2
25  29T Jim McCormick     58   5               1        1  1     1        1
26  32  Ed Williamson     56   5               1           1  1     1  1 
27  20  Bus Clarkson      53   5                     1  1     1     1        1
28  19  Bucky Walters     51   5                        1     2  1           1
29  29T Bob Johnson       48   5                        1     1  1     1     1
30  33  Tommy John        44   4                  1     1        1           1
31  25  Urban Shocker     43   4                        1     2        1
32  45  Kevin Appier      40   5                              1        2  1  1
33  26  Fred McGriff      37   4                     1                 2  1  
34  27  Tommy Leach       35   4                           1     1        1  1
35  51  Wally Schang      33   3                     1     1              1  
36  31  Mickey Welch      30   4                                 1        2  1
37  34  Burleigh Grimes   30   3            1                             1  1
38  42  Addie Joss        28   2            1                 1
39  36T Bob Elliott       26   3                                 1  1     1
40T 43T Luke Easter       24   2                        1     1
40T 52T Lou Brock         24   2                        1     1
42  35  Thurman Munson    23   2                        1        1
43  43T Dolf Luque        21   2                              1  1
44  28  Kirby Puckett     20   2                              1     1
45  36T John Olerud       19   3                                          1  2
46T 46  Tommy Bond        19   2                              1        1
46T 58  Dale Murphy       19   2                                 1  1
48  36T Vern Stephens     18   2                                 1     1
49T 57  Frank Chance      17   2                                 1        1
49T n/e Nomar Garciaparra 17   2                              1              1
51  52T Dwight Gooden     15   2                                       1  1
52T 48T Babe Adams        15   1                  1
52T 54  Dizzy Dean        15   1                  1
54  60T Ed Cicotte        14   1                     1
55T 60T Jack Quinn        13   1                        1
55T --  Carlos Morán      13   1                        1
57T 40  Orel Hershiser    12   1                           1
57T 41  Tony Perez        12   1                           1
57T 55T Lee Smith         12   1                           1
57T 63  Ernie Lombardi    12   1                           1
57T --  Jose Cruz         12   1                           1
62T 48T Luis Gonzalez     11   1                              1
62T 64  Willie Davis      11   1                              1
64T 50  Tony Mullane      10   1                                 1
64T --  Bobby Veach       10   1                                 1
64T --  Tony Phillips     10   1                                 1
67T --  George Uhle        9   1                                    1
67T --  Ron Cey            9   1                                    1
69T 65T Frank Tanana       8   1                                       1
69T --  Perucho Cepeda     8   1                                       1
69T --  Tony Pena          8   1                                       1
72T 55T Jim Rice           7   1                                          1
72T 70T Dave Bancroft      7   1                                          1
72T 70T Elston Howard      7   1                                          1
72T 70T Carl Mays          7   1                                          1
72T n/e Carlos Delgado     7   1                                          1
72T --  Mike Scioscia      7   1                                          1
72T --  Cesar Cedeno       7   1                                          1
79T 65T Lefty Gomez        6   1                                             1
79T 75T Dave Parker        6   1                                             1
79T --  Joe Tinker         6   1                                             1
79T --  Gene Tenace        6   1                                             1
Dropped Out: Albert Belle (39), Johnny Pesky (47), Pie Traynor (59), Dave Concepcion (62),
George Van Haltren (65T), Luis Aparicio (68T), Orlando Cepeda (68T), Art Fletcher (70T),
Lance Parrish (70T), Norm Cash (75T), Al Rosen (77T), Sam Leever (77T), Roy White (77T),
Wilbur Cooper (77T), LeRoy Matlock (77T).
JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: December 22, 2014 at 09:19 PM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: December 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM (#4867255)
By the way, it's not immediately obvious, but Schilling is very clearly a Philadelphia hat for those keeping those standings.

It's also fairly clear that Johnson gets a Diamondbacks hat. Even though he threw more innings for Seattle, he had more WAR and much more WAA while pitching in the desert.

As much as I'd like him to be Montreal, Pedro very clearly goes in with the B :-)
   2. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: December 22, 2014 at 11:41 PM (#4867261)
Johnson only the 17th player to be elected with unanimous 1st place votes. Pedro missed by getting one fourth place vote being the 28th player elected with unanimous 'elect-me' votes.
   3. Chris Fluit Posted: December 22, 2014 at 11:47 PM (#4867267)
Thanks, Joe- and thanks to all of the other ballot counters as well
   4. OCF Posted: December 22, 2014 at 11:50 PM (#4867270)
34 voters. We also had 34 voters in 2014 and 34 voters in 2013, although it's not exactly the same 34.

With a diagonally dominant ballot matrix through the first six rows, this was a very high-consensus election. In fact, I have the average consensus score of +20.3 as the second highest ever, behind only 1934 at +21.9.

The highest possible consensus score would have been +31; the highest actual scores at +27 were Chris Cobb and Micheal J. Binkley's. 22 of the 34 voters were at +20 or higher, and many of the others were at +19 or +18.

Here are the bottom 5:

+16: Cespedes, Savant (James Newburg)
+15: John Murphy
+14: bjhanke
+10: karlmagnus
-6: JMD (daryn?) - got here by omitting Schilling and Mussina.

A number of long-time favorite candidates saw significant drops in support. (With the same number of voters, we can read ballot totals at face value, although in fairness, with a lot of votes going to new eligibles at the top, most down-ballot candidates lost some support.)

Bonds went from 154 to 109
Rizzuto went from 132 to 90
Duffy went from 112 to 61
Delgado went from 50 to 7
Belle went from 34 to 0

Bell increased his support from 139 to 188.
Other with at least some increase in support: Giles, McCormick, Appier.

Any candidate appearing on as many ballots as Mussina, Smoltz, Sheffield, and Sosa is basically a lock to be elected as soon as a space opens.
   5. Patrick W Posted: December 22, 2014 at 11:56 PM (#4867273)
Congratulations to Pedro Martinez, who by virtue of a 2nd place vote on the first ballot became the 500th player to receive points on a ballot as part of this project. By my count, we are now up to 510 players all time receiving support at one time or another, an average of 4.3 new players per year over the 118 year history of the HOM. Almost exactly half of those players (256) are enshrined in our Hall.

   6. Chris Fluit Posted: December 22, 2014 at 11:58 PM (#4867274)
How did Delgado lose support from 2014 to 2015? This was his first year of eligibility.
   7. Rob_Wood Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:06 AM (#4867276)
I am not positive but it looks like Gary Sheffield is missing an 8th place vote (ronw).
   8. OCF Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:07 AM (#4867277)
Oops, my bad. Yes, it was Delgado's first year of eligibility. The 50 is a phantom number.
   9. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:22 AM (#4867283)
I am not positive but it looks like Gary Sheffield is missing an 8th place vote (ronw).


Fixed. Yet another example of the awesomeness that is Rob Wood :-)

Also want to give big thanks to rwagman, OCF, Patrick W, RonW and DL in MN for all of their help this year.
   10. JoeD has the Imperial March Stuck in His Head Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:29 AM (#4867287)
Just curious OCF - where do I fit on the consensus scale?
   11. Chris Cobb Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:31 AM (#4867288)
the highest actual scores at +27 were Chris Cobb and Micheal J. Binkley's

If I had voted early, I could imagine I was setting the trend: voting late, I'm more likely following it . . .

Unrelatedly, the work-around I have found for not getting a comment window after logging in is to click through to the beta version of the site and then, from there, click back to the classic version. So far that method has worked for me every time. I have no idea if that will work for other users, platforms, or browsers, but it worked for me.

(I thought the results thread might be a good place to put that note where many eyes were likely to see it.)
   12. Howie Menckel Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:31 AM (#4867289)

As the first voter in the first ballot in '1898' (actually 2003), and in every ballot since, I must pay homage to founder Joe Dimino, indispensable right-hand man John Murphy, and the even more undersung (unless someone can fix that) subsequent compilers.

At my best, I've been a good party guest who adds to the conversation and brings enough beer, wine and/or desserts to justify his return next year. Others, including those who keep track of all-time "HOM pts" that I update but need correcting from, also deserve huzzahs.

"Standing on the shoulders of giants" is fair, but Stephen Jay Gould complicated that expression...

   13. OCF Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:33 AM (#4867290)
You're at +19.
   14. rawagman Posted: December 23, 2014 at 09:38 AM (#4867348)
Through every 5th ballot submitted, I would reference the standings. No one outside of the top six finishers - Johnson, Martinez, Schilling, Mussina, Smoltz and Sheffield - were ever in the top five. And Sheffield only reached that plateau briefly, after the 10th ballot was counted.
   15. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:14 PM (#4867504)
Since I saw a request for this somewhere in a discussion thread (probably from 3 months ago, sorry) I just put up an updated spreadsheet of yearly ABs and IPs for HoM inductees to the Yahoo group. I know that PAs would be better, but to be honest I don't care quite enough to go back and re-do all of that.

There's also some graphs showing the % of total AB/IP by year, and comparisons of the 2 leagues. Check out the League IP comparison in 1968! (For some reason I hadn't included that graph before.)

   16. DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4867509)
Thanks to Joe and John for starting this and thanks to all the HoM and MMP voters. I would encourage HoM voters interested in turn of the century baseball to participate in the MMP project this year (1901-1911).
   17. DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:23 PM (#4867513)
My first guess at next year is Griffey Jr, Mussina, Smoltz plus one more of Manny, Sheffield or Edmonds.
   18. Moeball Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:31 PM (#4867521)
As a newbie first time voter, thank you all so much for allowing me this honor!

It was a lot of work slogging through dozens of player profiles to try to come to a decision on whom to vote for, but it also was a lot of fun!

Dumb question - what is "dropped out" from the ballot - if you are a player that didn't get elected this year, don't you just re-join the list of candidates for next year?
   19. DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:45 PM (#4867541)
Dropped out just means you got a vote last year and didn't this year. Everyone is perpetually eligible.
   20. OCF Posted: December 23, 2014 at 12:46 PM (#4867547)
"Dropped out" is short for "Received at least one vote in 2014 but did not receive a vote in 2015." Such a candidate is still eligible, and may potentially appear on a 2016 ballot. Most interesting case of this: Orlando Cepeda received one 12th place vote in 2014. He did not receive that vote in 2015 (the same voter participated, but moved on to other down-ballot candidates.) However, Orlando's father, Perucho Cepeda, did receive one 13th place vote in 2015 (from a different voter).
   21. Patrick W Posted: December 23, 2014 at 04:15 PM (#4867733)
I would like to offer a note of thanks to Moeball, Harvest, and adarowski for joining us this year. Since this project has moved into the annual election cycle, there has been quite a bit of attrition amongst the old-timer ranks*. The long term viability of the HOM project will demand attracting new & interested folks like you, willing to take the time / effort to research and submit a ballot. Thank you for taking that time and effort.

If you guys could share any ideas on how to make the process easier for others like you to join (while still keeping the electorate standards as high as possible), that would be very helpful to us as a group.

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* Among the top 35 voters all-time in total ballots submitted (over 75 ballots), 34 of these turned in a ballot in 2007 & 33 submitted in 2008. Among these same 35, only 17 submitted a ballot this year, down from 19 last year. Among all other voters (having submitted 1 to 75 ballots over the life of the HOM), 14 voted in 2007, 17 voted in 2008, 15 voted in 2014, and 17 voted this year.

As a group, the younger voters are treading water (i.e. we have added 12 new voters since 2009, enough to offset the lost votes from those who weren't here in 1925), but we have lost half of the long-time voters since we left the 2-3 week cycle. Staring at a fairly uneventful slate of ballots over the next 5 years (only in terms of uncertainty of results, not on the merit of the players), I fear this trend continuing or worsening.

In other words: it might be a good idea for someone to head up a PR Committee for the HOM. Spread the word, recruit at SABR meetings, etc.
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 23, 2014 at 04:32 PM (#4867750)
Really surprised that Mussina wasn't closer to Schilling. Don't see Schilling as clearly superior.
   23. DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2014 at 04:45 PM (#4867755)
Schilling topped Mussina last year also.
   24. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 24, 2014 at 10:23 AM (#4867979)
Thanks to Joe and John for starting this and thanks to all the HoM and MMP voters.


Thank you, Dan, though I really didn't help start this at all. :-) Though I knew of the HoM when Joe originally brought it up circa 2002, I had nothing to do with the initial setup. In fact, I almost missed the first election because I found out that the HoM was up and running late in that process. Though I was a prolific post among the voters right from the start, I don't think it was until the 1920's before I started handling the day-t-day reins of this institution.

Having said that, my thanks to Joe for conceiving all of this, as well as for everybody handling the electoral responsibilities and plaque room now.


I would encourage HoM voters interested in turn of the century baseball to participate in the MMP project this year (1901-1911).


Agreed. I believe this will be the most fun era that we have worked on so far. Thanks for creating this, Dan!

Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, and Happy Holidays to everyone!
   25. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: December 24, 2014 at 10:25 AM (#4867980)
Really surprised that Mussina wasn't closer to Schilling. Don't see Schilling as clearly superior.


I had them side-by-side on my last two ballots myself.
   26. Howie Menckel Posted: December 24, 2014 at 12:36 PM (#4868027)
All-time 'Votes Points' thru 2015 - those still eligible in 2016 election are in CAPS

ronw or RickA likely will fix the occasional mistakes, and thanks for that

Cravath passed Mendez for 18th
Walters passed Roush for 21st
Williamson passed Cool Papa Bell for 46th and with Schang were the only top 50 members who got more pts than last year

not sure if Sosa made top 50 yet

TOP 50, ALL-TIME, unofficial (pts this year)
DUFFY...... 27890.5 (61)
VAN HALTREN 26923.5 (x)
Beckley.... 25856
Browning... 24502.5
WELCH...... 18811 (30)
REDDING.... 18614 (68)
Childs..... 18484
Griffith... 17924
Waddell.... 17596
Jennings... 16976

LEACH...... 16011 (35)
ChaJones....15875
Bresnahan.. 14965
Sisler..... 13892
Pike....... 13399
Sewell..... 12769
RYAN....... 12663.5 (x)
CRAVATH.....12569 (67)
Mendez..... 12555
Thompson... 12349

WALTERS.....12019 (51)
Roush...... 12005
Bennett.... 11503
Moore...... 10904
Rixey...... 10789
Caruthers.. 10704
Beckwith.... 9896
GRIMES.......9876 (30)
DOYLE....... 9816 (x)
BJOHNSON.....9777 (48)

HStovey......9576
Mackey.......8930
AOms.........8385
Start........8378.5
McGinnity....8232
McGraw.......8145
DPearce......8073
McVey........7985.5
FGrant.......7969.5
BMONROE......7947 (x)

Kiner........7746
Suttles......7690
NFox.........7587
Trouppe......7494
WFerrell.....7259
WILLIAMSON...7009 (56)
CPBell.......6968
SCHANG.......6954 (33)
WILLIS.......6748 (116)
Galvin.......6585

Others in active top 50 (X if no votes this year):

DDean 5992, Elliott 5288, Rizzuto 5279, Bridges 5225, BTaylor 5054, Joss 4898, TPerez 4385, Tiant 4303, FChance 3898, Traynor 3848X, CMays 3793, NCash 3786X, OCepeda 3465X, McCormick 3409, Cicotte 3343, SRice 3301X, BoBonds 3278, LBrock 3222, EHoward 2938, Singleton 2723X, Tiernan 2709X, BClarkson 2729, VStephens 2656, FJones 2636X, Klein 2601X, Puckett 2569, Veach 2398, Mullane 2397, Staub 2396X, GJBurns 2388X, Dunlap 2298X, Lombardi 2278, Concepcion 2149X, Bancroft 2122, Newcombe 2001
   27. Moeball Posted: December 24, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4868124)
Dropped out just means you got a vote last year and didn't this year. Everyone is perpetually eligible.


Thanks for the explanation! I was kind of surprised at the list of players who "dropped out" this year - I thought some of them would get at least one vote!

In fact, one of the things that makes this so challenging is, let's face it - the super-dominant players from the past have probably already been elected. So the players remaining on the ballot are all really good players, but at a slightly lower level, and therefore all pretty comparable to each other. Which makes it really difficult to decide how to rank them! I mean, would you rather have Tommy John or Tommy Bridges on the mound? Hilton Smith or Dick Redding? Kevin Appier or Jim McCormick? Are you kidding? As a manager, I would want a whole rotation full of these guys and watch the pennants roll in!
   28. natebracy Posted: January 16, 2015 at 12:01 PM (#4882162)
I am not.a voter due to a lack of time I can commit, but I follow these discussions as regularly as I can. I noticed that wIth the last election, there are 20 players whose place each year are unanimous (17 firsts plus 3 unanimous seconds). It might be interesting to have an election consisting of only those 20 to see who is the inner most inner circle player. Just an idea I thought I would pass on.
   29. Rusty Priske Posted: January 16, 2015 at 01:37 PM (#4882227)
For anyone who wonders or cares, I have stopped voting. Nothing personal. I had a very intricate spreadsheet where I tracked a whole lot of things that I used to do my ballot.

It is gone.

I don't have the heart to rebuild it and it was that spreadsheet that made this fun for me.
   30. DL from MN Posted: January 16, 2015 at 04:12 PM (#4882357)
Sorry to hear that Rusty. Thanks for hanging around this long.
   31. Mike Webber Posted: January 17, 2015 at 11:20 AM (#4882617)
Dang Rusty, sorry to hear that. I lost a couple of seasons once and was about to throw up.
   32. SavoyBG Posted: March 06, 2015 at 11:45 PM (#4908875)
Looking for team owners - GM's to run teams in a 1980s League that will be drafting soon. See this thread at Baseball Fever for more info:

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?122540-1980s-LEAGUE-DRAFT-AND-ROSTERS-ETC
   33. ReggieThomasLives Posted: April 15, 2015 at 02:05 PM (#4931543)
Really surprised that Mussina wasn't closer to Schilling. Don't see Schilling as clearly superior


The 127 to 123 ERA+ difference grows when you factor in unearned runs. IIRC Moose gave up 0.25 UER per 9 innings, Schilling 0.19, so it's like a 130 ERA+ to 123 ERA+ difference with that factored in. Moose pitched more innings, but only about 9% more. Schilling finished with 54.1 WAA to Mussina's 48.6 which I think is a fair assessment of the value difference the better rate stats and fewer UERs provided over the extra regular season innings.

Moose was very good in the post season (3.42 ERA over 139 IP), but Schilling has a strong claim to best post season pitcher ever, 2.23 ERA over 133 IP, the gaudy 12-1 win/loss record that would have been even gaudier with a decent bullpens on his first two teams.

But beyond that Schilling probably has the most memorable moments of any post season starter of our generation. In 1993 with Phillies he left with the lead in 3 straight starts and bullpen blew all three leads (though Mitch Williams converted 2 into his wins), so Curt says "enough of that" and bulldogs a 9 inning shutout in his 4th start to keep the Phillies alive for game 6 and send the series back to Toronto. I wasn't a fan of either team but even I remember that series standing out as one of the most bizarre and exciting in memory.

In 2001 with DBacks Schilling threw 48 playoff innings, the record before until Bumgarner threw 52 last year. No knock on Bumgarner, but Curt did it coming off throwing 256 regular season innings, while Madison threw only 217 and also got a bonus wildcard start. Schillings three World Series starts vs. Yankees in 2001 all went 7 innings, giving up only 1, 1, and 2 runs, losing the 2nd on a Byun-Young Kim HR (sorry Tino, it was a gift), and turning over game 7 to Randy Johnson to close. Again, I was living in the Pacific Northwest, no dog in this hunt, but remember all of it.

In 2004 he was part of maybe the most famous championship series ever, can't exactly remember his role, I think he may have been injured. I was of course rooting hard for the less evil team.

I know this is Hall of Merit, not Fame, but I think it's impossible to forget those moments and it does bias us into seeing players in a more heroic light. Moose's post season moments were less memorable and that helps us forget how dominant he really was early in his career. The real answer of course is that Schilling deserves to go in first, on merit, but they are both clearly HOM worthy to me.
   34. Ithaca2323 Posted: April 15, 2015 at 02:36 PM (#4931591)
Moose's post season moments were less memorable and that helps us forget how dominant he really was early in his career.


Mussina has the worst postseason luck of a guy I can remember.

In 1997, he dominated the ALCS, allowing one run and four hits in two starts, striking out 25. The Orioles, naturally, lost both games, which probably cost him ALCS MIVP.

In 2001, it was he who outpitched Barry Zito in Game 3 of the ALDS, winning 1-0 and keeping the Yanks from elimination. But all most people remember from that game is the Jeter Flip.

In 2003, he kept the wheels from falling off in Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS, coming on in relief to pitch out of a 1st-and-3rd none-out jam Clemens put him in, and throwing three shutout innings with the Yankees down 4-0. Most fans remember Rivera's three innings and boone's home run, but neither happen without Mussina's heroics. He was lined up to start Game 7 of the Series after beating Josh Beckett in Game 3, but the Yankees lost the next three games.

He wasn't a great postseason performer, but his best moments rarely occurred in wins, and when they did, they were overshadowed.

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