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Sunday, October 15, 2006

Bert Campaneris

Eligible in 1989.

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 15, 2006 at 07:19 PM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 15, 2006 at 07:22 PM (#2212573)
Will being the best AL shorstop of his generation be enough for him to be inducted?
   2. DavidFoss Posted: October 15, 2006 at 08:33 PM (#2212642)
Campaneris is actually older than Jim Fregosi.
   3. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: October 15, 2006 at 09:10 PM (#2212656)
Campy's HOVG I guess. 29th best SS in MLB history by my Keltner scores, plus six or seven NgL guys ahead of him, as well as maybe Rizzuto and Franco depending on any credit scenarios they have. Current interval-based method shows him as 45th all time.
   4. Catfish326 Posted: October 19, 2006 at 03:32 PM (#2217781)
The 70's A's were loaded with really solid players that fall just short of HOFer material . . . Bando, Tenace, Campy?, Rudi (falls far shorter, but really good when healthy) Vida, and Holtzman.

If I could design any team, the 70's A's design is what I would want. Really good speed, good power, good OBP, plays small ball better than anyone!, awesome pitching (starting and the pen), and pretty good defense (Dick Green was a mad-man at 2B in the '74 World Series, Rudi put on a clinic in his WS play, Bando was solid on the corner, Fosse/Duncan/Tenace were pretty good behind the plate).
   5. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: October 19, 2006 at 08:00 PM (#2218065)
The thing that I remember about those A's teams, Catfish, was that they were perceived as somehow winning despite their lack of statistical superiority. However, looking over those teams now, their stats were superior to the AL teams from '72-'74. The problem was that the media ignored park effects and walks, so that tended to underrate that dynasty's achievements.

They were really good.
   6. TomH Posted: October 19, 2006 at 09:06 PM (#2218120)
not much different than the 69-71 O's. Not quite the quality, more successful in Oct, similar makeup
   7. Catfish326 Posted: October 20, 2006 at 04:13 PM (#2219617)
I have Game One of the 1974 World Series on VHS. What is amazing to me watching that game, was the way that team played small ball. 6 bunts in that game by Oakland (none by the pitchers)! One was a bunt single by Rudi. They won 3-2. Also interesting about this series was Bill Buckner (yet, to really make an impression in WS play in 1986) claiming before the series that at each position the Dodgers were better than the A's, and that no A's player could crack the Dodgers starting lineup . . . ok Billy Buck! . . . in the 1st inning of Game One, Buckner singled and was then picked off.
   8. DavidFoss Posted: October 20, 2006 at 04:37 PM (#2219640)
Anyone know the mystery behind Campy's fluke power season of 1970?
   9. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: October 20, 2006 at 06:57 PM (#2219768)
Bacon? Fruit loops? Working out in a vat of rice?

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