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Sunday, May 28, 2006

Denny McLain

Eligible in 1978.

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 28, 2006 at 06:57 PM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 28, 2006 at 07:12 PM (#2041232)
Peak voters need only apply.
   2. jwb Posted: May 28, 2006 at 08:37 PM (#2041484)
October 9, 1970: [Denny McLain] Traded by the Detroit Tigers with Elliott Maddox, Norm McRae, and Don Wert to the Washington Senators for Ed Brinkman, Aurelio Rodriguez, Joe Coleman, and Jim Hannan.

I just had to mention this.
   3. OCF Posted: May 29, 2006 at 12:32 AM (#2041739)
RA+ PythPat equivalent record: 25-12 and 23-13 for the two years 1968-69 but 64-73 over the rest of his career for an overall 112-98. Low number of IP/decision. Nowhere close to being Dizzy Dean; Smokey Joe Wood (without the OF play) is a better comp, and I'd prefer Wood.

As for jwb's comment: I have his equivalent record for the '71 Senators as 9-15. That's probably sub-replacement, but it's not as ugly as 10-22. Rodriguez would go on to play well over a thousand games for the Tigers (hitting like a dead-ball 3B), and Coleman would be a better-than-average workhorse for several more years.
   4. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: May 29, 2006 at 12:42 AM (#2041750)
Smokey Joe Wood (without the OF play) is a better comp, and I'd prefer Wood.

As a person, too.
   5. OCF Posted: May 29, 2006 at 12:55 AM (#2041758)
As a person, too.

What kind of team could you put together out of MLB players who did jail or prison time before, during, or after their playing careers? "Before" gets you Ron LeFlore, "during" gets you Mike Donlin (and Willie Wilson?), and "after"? Rose, Cepeda, ...
   6. rawagman Posted: May 29, 2006 at 08:54 AM (#2042078)

What kind of team could you put together out of MLB players who did jail or prison time before, during, or after their playing careers? "Before" gets you Ron LeFlore, "during" gets you Mike Donlin (and Willie Wilson?), and "after"? Rose, Cepeda, ...


Anyone ever play WhatIfSports?
   7. Paul Posted: May 29, 2006 at 08:17 PM (#2042567)
I just finished reading Tris Speaker's biography. My guess is that Wood was a good guy after he left baseball. While playing, he was very anti-Catholic, and was possibly involved in some betting on the 1912 Series. And of course, he was knowledgeable about the Cobb/Speaker/Leonard "fixed" game.

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