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Saturday, February 05, 2011

Edgardo Alfonzo

eligible 2012

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: February 05, 2011 at 12:33 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: February 05, 2011 at 07:08 PM (#3744139)
What really happened to this guy?
   2. The District Attorney Posted: February 05, 2011 at 07:14 PM (#3744145)
Most likely older than he claimed to be.
   3. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: February 05, 2011 at 11:18 PM (#3744351)
Yeah, that makes sense. I suspect Tabata will be the next guy to get outed....
   4. Cowboy Popup Posted: February 05, 2011 at 11:56 PM (#3744367)
What really happened to this guy?

His back went out. I really don't think it was an age thing. He looked like a completely different player after the back injury.
   5. OCF Posted: February 06, 2011 at 01:56 AM (#3744419)
He looked like a completely different player after the back injury.

1995-2000, ages 21-26: 827 games, .296/.370/.450, OPS+ 114. WAR 22.8, of which 19.4 offense, 3.4 defense. One All-Star game, several downballot MVP mentions; 2000 in particular was a 6.7 WAR year. Would look better than that in rate stats if we lopped off the first two years when he was breaking in.

2001-2007, ages 27-32: 579 games, .270/.341/.395, OPS+ 93. WAR 5.6, of which 7.5 offense, -1.9 defense.

Looks like he always had good plate discipline, but without the BA/Slg that wasn't enough. And it's not surprising that a back injury would cause a decline in defensive value.
   6. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: February 08, 2011 at 03:56 PM (#3745854)
What really happened to this guy?

He was a good-hitting 2B in New York. OK, I'm kidding, but it is interesting that his most similar player at age 26 and 27 was Carlos Baerga, and continued to be Carlos Baerga after age 27 for the wrong reasons.

Yes, Robinson Cano better watch out.

Post #5 understates the disparity pre- and post-injury, as 5.3 of the 5.6 post-2000 WAR came in 2002. In 2002 he looked like his career still had some life in it. And then he was toast.

In addition to 1999-2000, he was also very good in 1997 (7.0 WAR), although he didn't show the same kind of power.

Alfonzo had a monster game against the Astros in 1999 - 6-6, 3 HR, 6 R, 5 RBI.
   7. PreservedFish Posted: February 08, 2011 at 04:06 PM (#3745865)
He also got fat.
   8. Mark S. is bored Posted: February 11, 2011 at 06:50 PM (#3748498)
Post #5 understates the disparity pre- and post-injury, as 5.3 of the 5.6 post-2000 WAR came in 2002. In 2002 he looked like his career still had some life in it. And then he was toast.


This is very good call out. Watch his power decline:
97/00:.305/.389/.477 ISO: 172
2001: .243/.322/.403 ISO: 160
2002: .308/.391/.459 ISO: 151
2003: .259/.334/.391 ISO: 132
2004: .289/.350/.407 ISO: 122
05/06:.248/.302/.308 ISO: 60

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