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Friday, June 09, 2006

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So who is gong to be in Seattle at the end of the month? I’m arriving Tuesday evening, staying until late Sunday night. John isn’t going to be able to make it this year.

Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 09, 2006 at 06:14 AM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 09, 2006 at 06:17 AM (#2057409)
Hot Topics.
   2. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: June 09, 2006 at 06:39 AM (#2057412)
Damn insomnia.

I've got a list of primates (defined as loosely as possible) who have expressed interest in SABR-Cons over the years in post #3 in this thread.

HoM-rs (past and current) on the list include:

4) Me - going
5) Treder - going (not really a HoM but I keep seeing his name in the threads lately)
14) Dimino. Wants to go but rumor has it he blew as his discrensionary money getting creamed at poker last year in Toronto.
16) David Jones - going & running the Dead Ball Committee meeting
23) Eric Enders - don't know, but he might
26) Grandma - nope
29) Dick Thompson. No idea. Not sure if he'd want to speak to HoMrs if he did go.
30) Paul Wendt. Apparently going and running the 19th Century Committee meeting
37) Craig Burley. Didn't he post in the primoridal HoM threads or something? Regardless, he ain't going
40) Mike Webber. Maybe - I'm not sure
55) Max Parkinson - I'm under the impression he isn't going.

That's everyone I can find associated with the HoM, but there's 67 names on the list altogether, most of whom ain't going.
   3. favre Posted: June 09, 2006 at 07:24 AM (#2057419)
I'm won't be able to attend the convention itself, but I will be in Tacoma during those dates. I'd love to pop up to Seattle and meet some HoM voters.
   4. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: June 09, 2006 at 11:26 AM (#2057435)
26) Grandma - nope

I wont be able to attend the Negro League convention, it also appears. Guess I'll have to wait until next year to see everybody again, which I definitely will attend.

29) Dick Thompson. No idea. Not sure if he'd want to speak to HoMrs if he did go.

I believe he would make the sign of the cross in any of our presences. :-)
   5. Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 09, 2006 at 11:33 AM (#2057437)
Regarding Mr. Thompson, we have elected Wes Ferrell since his blow up, so you never know.

Favre, stop over! Email me off line and I'll get you my cell phone number so you can contact me that week.

Webber will definitely be there.

Max sent me a note a few weeks back, that I keep forgetting to respond to. IIRC he said he was a maybe . . .
   6. TomH Posted: June 09, 2006 at 12:00 PM (#2057449)
next time the convention comes within a 300 mi radius of southern Maryland (NYC, Cleveland, DC, Baltimore, Richnond, Durham, Pitts, Philly), I'll be there.
   7. Daryn Posted: June 09, 2006 at 12:45 PM (#2057472)
It'll be a game time decision for me -- if I can get the arrangements in place for my kids and work, I hope to be there.
   8. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 09, 2006 at 02:34 PM (#2057575)
next time the convention comes within a 300 mi radius of southern Maryland (NYC, Cleveland, DC, Baltimore, Richnond, Durham, Pitts, Philly), I'll be there.


Probably 2008, Tom - that decision should be announced during the convention.

-- MWE
   9. Tiboreau Posted: June 09, 2006 at 04:31 PM (#2057719)
I'm won't be able to attend the convention itself, but I will be in Tacoma during those dates. I'd love to pop up to Seattle and meet some HoM voters.

Same here, although transportation is a little iffy in my case.
   10. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: June 09, 2006 at 05:21 PM (#2057788)
And I'll be in Maine during the convention in case anyone wants to get together for HOM meet up....
   11. Paul Wendt Posted: June 09, 2006 at 06:01 PM (#2057832)
By the way: Mike Emeigh ran for the Board of Directors against a popular incumbent with the expected result, second place. SABR has a shortage of unpopular incumbents just now.

--
16) David Jones - going & running the Dead Ball Committee meeting
23) Eric Enders - don't know, but he might
26) Grandma - nope
29) Dick Thompson. No idea. Not sure if he'd want to speak to HoMrs if he did go.
30) Paul Wendt. Apparently going and running the 19th Century Committee meeting

Bad news. It looks like you have five No s on the list. David Jones and I have arranged for others to lead the Deadball Era (Thursday 8:00am) and 19th Century (8:00am) annual meetings. Eric Enders is DEC vice chair, but someone told me he was asked to run the meeting, so I wonder about EE.

Dick Thompson is the 2004 Bob Davids Award winner (SABR's career honor) but he declined to serve on the selection committee composed of the three most recent, same as last year when he did not go to the convention. In that context and another, I've heard that he will not be present. He does know that Wes Ferrell is in the Hall of Merit.

I have spoken to KJOK, Gary A, and El Chaleeko recently.
KJ plans to be in Seattle.

FYI, I understand that Dick Clark and Larry Lester will not be there. The Negro Leagues Courier this month announced another person to chair their meeting.

Sean Forman (baseball-reference, baseball-databank) will be there. I believe he will welcome anyone who wants to volunteer but you may need to seek him out as he is not on the program.

DL from MN? likely, I guess

--
One thing I have discussed with each of the bold, Greg Bond of the African-American Base Ball electorate, and Rick Benner, Collegiate Baseball Cmte, is logging 19c games outside the majors, certainly all games played by professional black teams (even against picked nines), probably all games played by college clubs (maybe importing from some Athletic Depts with 19c history). All else is unclear. Well, beside game data we will note sources with codes such as "B" box score, "S" story.

The bold all think its great that someone might begin doing this work, and a few of them may join in. Most of them, like Bond and Benner, have personal research programs in place. My guess is, something led by 19c Cmte (me) will begin soon, probably a pilot project.

I'm wondering whether to go for a grass roots project such as June 1896 in "all" daily newspapers; that is, recruit people to commit to the newspaper unit. In my dreams, I think we should do 1856 completely, all mentions of base ball; and pilot 1876, 1896, 1916, bringing in the Deadball Erans. Note, this would be a census of newspapers and writers where they begin to sign boxes or game stories, as well as a census of games. And clubs: we don't generally know clubs; we know "Williams College" and "Cuban Giants" but logging games will be the principal method for compiling a long list of clubs.
   12. Mike Webber Posted: June 09, 2006 at 07:05 PM (#2057903)
I'll definately be there, Tuesday night until Sunday Morning.
in fact the convention program is on-line now

SABR 36 Program PDF

The attendees as of May 18 are on page 43

Of course if you aren't free that week, you can always come to Kansas City July 7-9

9th Annual Jerry Malloy Conference
   13. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 09, 2006 at 08:48 PM (#2058061)
Mike Emeigh ran for the Board of Directors against a popular incumbent with the expected result, second place.


I wasn't at all surprised by the result, although I was surprised that I got as many votes as I did (and also that around 30 people who voted for VP and Secretary didn't vote for someone for Director).

I see that Paul, Mike W., and I are all on-site judges as well (along with a couple of other Primates).

-- MWE
   14. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: June 09, 2006 at 09:21 PM (#2058089)
Mike Emeigh ran for the Board of Directors against a popular incumbent with the expected result, second place.


I wasn't at all surprised by the result, although I was surprised that I got as many votes as I did (and also that around 30 people who voted for VP and Secretary didn't vote for someone for Director).

What the? When I got the ballot it looked like there were three people running (you, Maury, & Traven) for 3 slots on the board. What did I misunderstand when reading it?

I see that Paul, Mike W., and I are all on-site judges as well (along with a couple of other Primates).

Who are the other primate judges? Last year all we had was Rauseo.
   15. KJOK Posted: June 10, 2006 at 05:33 AM (#2058929)
I have spoken to KJOK, Gary A, and El Chaleeko recently.
KJ plans to be in Seattle.

Unfortunately, just a day or two after that, my plans all fell through, and I almost certainly won't be in Seattle.

However, it will take something major to prevent my from being in St. Louis next year...
   16. DL from MN Posted: June 10, 2006 at 01:29 PM (#2059046)
> DL from MN? likely, I guess

I think you have mistaken me for someone else. The DL is for Dan Landherr.
   17. Paul Wendt Posted: June 10, 2006 at 07:05 PM (#2059280)
What the? When I got the ballot it looked like there were three people running (you, Maury, & Traven) for 3 slots on the board. What did I misunderstand when reading it?

Uh-oh. Maybe confused by M, M, and M. Will some Andy McCue supporter revive DMNieporent's nasty Fall 2000 signature?
(I paraphrase: If you can read this you must be a Republican.)


Paul, Mike W., and I are all on-site judges as well

I was one judge as of May 18 but I have withdrawn as I will not be there. I named a late addition to the convention rolls and wished Neal Traven good luck. About five minutes later he distributed the renewed appeal for judges.


I think you have mistaken me for someone else. The DL is for Dan Landherr.

Yes, indeed, you are the wrong DL from MN.
Making comments like this is how I slowly learn who some people are not.
   18. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: June 10, 2006 at 07:20 PM (#2059294)
Making comments like this is how I slowly learn who some people are not.

Paul:

I'm not Rappaport.
   19. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 10, 2006 at 07:55 PM (#2059329)
When I got the ballot it looked like there were three people running (you, Maury, & Traven) for 3 slots on the board. What did I misunderstand when reading it?


There were three offices up for election: VP (Bill Nowlin running unopposed), Secretary (Neal Traven running unopposed), and Director (Andy McCue, Maury, and I).

-- MWE
   20. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: June 10, 2006 at 08:38 PM (#2059414)
Ohhhh. Here's what screwed me up. From the beginning of the voter's guide: "On the following pages you will find the statements of the candidates for the offices of Vice-President, Secretary, and Director (3 slots)." Then below it says there are four directors in all, and the position began in 2004. I thought the 3 slots referred only to the election for director(s).

Sorry Mike. Had I realized my vote could've made a difference, I would've spent the stamp and voted. Oops. Ah well -- no guarantee I would've voted for you anway. ;)
   21. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 10, 2006 at 09:15 PM (#2059427)
Sorry Mike. Had I realized my vote could've made a difference, I would've spent the stamp and voted.


Trust me - it wouldn't have, even if you HAD voted for me :) Andy got more votes than did Maury and I combined.

-- MWE
   22. DL from MN Posted: June 10, 2006 at 09:38 PM (#2059436)
> you are the wrong DL from MN

Why am I the "wrong" one?
   23. Joey Numbaz (Scruff) Posted: June 11, 2006 at 05:25 AM (#2059741)
I think he may have thought you were Dan Leavitt. One of the authors of Paths to Glory, who is also DL from Minnesota and a regular at the conventions . . .
   24. Paul Wendt Posted: June 11, 2006 at 12:19 PM (#2059773)
Yeah, Dan Leavitt owns the Statistical Analysis Committee egroup (lo-ong overdue, thanks Dan), keens on baseball records, might vote and comment something like you, I thought during your debut ;-)
   25. DL from MN Posted: June 11, 2006 at 02:06 PM (#2059793)
That's fine, I'm just poking a little fun.

> One of the authors of Paths to Glory

I wrote an article on Gardenhire that was a clutch hit once.

I wish I had the time to attend. Maybe when the kids are older.

The Wrong DL from MN
   26. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: June 12, 2006 at 02:16 AM (#2060636)
Landherr

A true man of the land.
   27. DanG Posted: June 12, 2006 at 06:16 PM (#2061228)
I'm a man of the land, I'm into discipline,
got a Bible in my hand and a beard on my chin
   28. Mike Emeigh Posted: June 12, 2006 at 08:05 PM (#2061341)
I'm a man of the land, I'm into discipline,
got a Bible in my hand and a beard on my chin


Someone else who gets Weird Al, I see.

-- MWE

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