Well, they can vote for Tim Raines (we can't) but not for Luis Tiant (we can), for instance.

Howie, I was talking about this and this - which I see that we did around Christmas time last year.

That just looks like a HOF thread that people started posting on - is anyone actually going to tally it?

I don't see any issue with us setting up our usual threads . . . am I missing something?

Yeah, we should probably set up our own, with the proper preambles and statements, and tell people that if they want their votes counted, they should post on ours even if they said something on that thread. Not sure about the timing - you can see how we timed it last year. I'll let Joe and/or John figure that out.

The link above to the archived 1917 ballot thread does not work (at least at the moment).
Here are the two invalid ballots (originally submitted as consecutive posts).


Posted 8:23 p.m., January 5, 2004 (#23) - Harold Thurmer (e-mail)
My Vote for 1917

Bob Carruthers-P
Frank Chance-1B
Ned Williamson - 3B
Larry Corcoran - P
Topsy Hartsel -OF
Harry Davis-1b
Bobby Lowe - RF
John McGraw-3b
Cy Young - P
Fred Goldsmith-P
Wid Conroy-3b
Patsy Dougherty-LF
Guy Hecker-P
Hugh Nicol-RF
Fred Pfeffer -29

Posted 8:30 p.m., January 5, 2004 (#24) - Dave Roberts (e-mail)
1-Bob Carruthers-P
2-Frank Chance-1B
3-Larry Corcoran - P
4-Fred Pfeffer -2B
5-Topsy Hartsel -OF
6-John McGraw-3b
7-Cy Young - P
8-Fred Goldsmith-P
9-Wid Conroy-3b
10-Ned Williamson - 3B
11-Patsy Dougherty-LF
12-Guy Hecker-P
13-Hugh Nicol-RF
14-Harry Davis-1b
15-Jim McCormick -P



In contrast, the top 20 finishers were:
1- 1080 Cy Young
2 - 920 Fred Clarke
3 - 643 Elmer Flick
4 - 586 Joe Kelley
5 - 582 Willie Keeler
6 - 496 Charlie Bennett
7 - 485 Jimmy Collins
8 - 398 Joe McGinnity
9 - 326 Bob Caruthers
10- 322 Frank Grant
11- 322 Sam Thompson
12- 293 Rube Waddell
13- 250 Hugh Duffy
14- 240 Lip Pike
15- 232 George Van Haltren
16- 227 Hughie Jennings
17- 219 Jake Beckley
18- 217 Jimmy Ryan
19- 167 Dicky Pearce
20- 161 Pete Browning