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Tuesday, February 21, 2006

Jim Gilliam

Eligible in 1972.

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: February 21, 2006 at 02:49 AM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: February 21, 2006 at 03:00 AM (#1869930)
Will his MLEs push Junior into borderline HoM territory?
   2. KJOK Posted: February 21, 2006 at 03:46 AM (#1869958)
Gilliam will definitely need MLE's to get anywhere near HOM territory.
   3. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: February 21, 2006 at 04:52 PM (#1870383)
Can't post them today, but I've got them done.
   4. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: February 21, 2006 at 05:38 PM (#1870436)
Gilliam's pre-MLB statistics

YEAR LG  TM  AGE PO TMG G  AB  H  TB 2B 3B HR SB BB K AVG  SLG 
--------------------------------------------------------------
1946 nnl bal 17  2b 47  2   9  1   1  0  0  0        .111 .111 
1947 nnl bal 18  2b 85 71 257 65  91 10  8  0  9     .253 .354 
1948
*nnl bal 19  2b 58 49 183 50  77  9  6  2        .273 .421 
1949 nal bal 20  2b    88 326 98 153 20 13  3        .301 .469 
1950 nal bal 21  2b    42 162 43  69 10  5  2 13     .265 .426 
1951 nal bal 22  2b     0         
     
*statistical information is not wholly available for this seasonso I’ve approximated performance from the AVG and SLG data available along with his surrounding dispersion of extra base hitsThe same is true for 1947’s 3B and 1949’s 2B.

             
international league               
YEAR LG  TM  AGE PO       TMG   G  AB   H  TB 2B 3B HR SB  BB  K AVG  SLG 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
1951 il  mon 22  2b 3b of 154 152 565 162 223 22  9  7 15 117 47 .287 .395
1952 il  mon 23  2b       154 151 561 169 253 39  9  9 18 100 18 .301 .451
                  
cuban winter league               
YEAR LG  TM  AGE PO TMG G  AB  H  TB 2B 3B HR SB BB K AVG  SLG 
--------------------------------------------------------------
1948 cwl alm 19  ph     1   1  1   1         
                  
prwl                  
YEAR LG  TM  AGE PO TMG G  AB  H  TB 2B 3B HR SB BB K AVG  SLG 
--------------------------------------------------------------
1951 prwl san juan 22 2b     0         
1952 prwl san juan 23 2b     0 
   5. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: February 21, 2006 at 05:44 PM (#1870445)
OK I could get to it today...

YEAR LG AGE PO  AVG  OBP  SLG   G  PA  AB  H   TB BB opssfws
--------------------------------------------------------------
1946 NL 17  2b .103 .150 .091   8  30  28   3   3  2 -31 -0.3
1947 NL 18  2b .231 .325 .304 129 520 457 105 139 64  68  9.6
1948 NL 19  2b .252 .351 .345 131 535 465 117 160 71  89 13.5
1949 NL 20  2b .265 .365 .386 132 541 467 124 180 74 102 16.8
1950 NL 21  2b .232 .329 .324 101 410 359  83 116 52  72  8.5
1951 NL 22  2b .278 .379 .367 152 627 540 150 198 88 102 19.3
1952 NL 23  2b .276 .376 .393 151 622 536 148 211 86 114 20.7 

As mentioned in the above post, there's a little bit of guesstimating where I don't have solid extra base hit information, but I think it's not too big of a variance producer. His fielding nets out to about 5.47 FWS/162 or 3.96/1000 innings. This might be low, however, I was going by Gilliam's career fielding rates, which include substantial time at 3B and in the OF.
   6. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: February 21, 2006 at 05:45 PM (#1870447)
Also of interest, WS has Gilliam as the best 2B in the NL in 1956, 1962, 1963.
   7. DavidFoss Posted: February 21, 2006 at 05:58 PM (#1870452)
Did he get hurt in 1950 or is that a developmental setback? The NeL->IL transition was the following season so it wasn't that.

At first glance, it almost looks like Gilliam simply spent an extra year in AAA because he was blocked by a great player on the big club.
   8. Dr. Chaleeko Posted: February 21, 2006 at 06:03 PM (#1870458)
Could be an artifact of the translation method, or it could be an injury. I don't know which.

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