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Wednesday, December 31, 2003

Mock 2004 Election

Thanks to Patrick W for tallying this up!

Paul Molitor edges Ryne Sandberg, and Bert Blyleven finished third. I’ve been busy, so I didn’t follow the discussion, but how anyone could leave Sandberg, Blyleven or Trammell off their ballot is beyond me.

Rk  Yr  Player             Pts Bal    1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10
1   04  Paul Molitor       276  15    4  9  1  1 
2   03  Ryne Sandberg      262  14    8  4  2  
3   98  Bert Blyleven      202  14    2  2  7  1  1  1  
4   04  Dennis Eckersley   171  15    1     1  5  3  1  3  1    
5   02  Alan Trammell      144  13          1  4  4  3  1    
6   --  No Vote            133  --                      1  5  6  7 
7   00  Rich Gossage       127  12             2  5  4     1       
8   02  Andre Dawson        56   6          1        3        1  1 
9   96  Keith Hernandez     55   6                1  2  2        1  
10  97  Dave Parker         47   6                      3  1     2  
11  95  Tommy John          43   6                      2     1  3  
12  04  Dave Steib          43   5                1     1  2  1   
13  01  Don Mattingly       39   5                      2  1  1  1  
14  94  Bruce Sutter        38   4             1     1     2     
15  99  Dale Murphy         35   5                            5  
16  00  Jack Morris         33   3          1  1           1    
17  95  Jim Rice            21   2          1              1

Joe Dimino Posted: December 31, 2003 at 01:53 PM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. Joe Morgan Posted: December 31, 2003 at 04:29 PM (#520537)

What's wrong with you people? How could no one give a vote above 7th place to No Vote? Why, when he was my teammate on the World Champion Cincinnati Reds of 1976(the most famous team of the last 30 years), he and Perez were the most clutch players on that team. And boy could No Vote play his position. You never saw such athleticism as when No Vote made an outstanding play. If Mr. Vote is not elected by the time he is eligible for my SuperFriends League of Veteran Voters, he's definately going in.

And where the heck is Dave Concepcion? I tell you, this is a Big Red Conspiracy.

2. Marc Posted: December 31, 2003 at 05:00 PM (#520538)

Just looking at the guys who got 12 or more ballots, they all just seem to naturally belong at the top of the list. I'm sure each of us has a personal fave who got 6 or fewer, but frankly I'd love to see all six of the >12 guys go in. I personally wish the HoF was a smaller-hall, but it ain't and it never will be. So today's players should not be subjected to substantially higher standards than the old-timers were. So those six look great. I'm sure that our greatest contribution to posterity was not (even) putting Bert and Trammell up near the top, but making the fine distinction between Goose and Bruce.

3. Carl Goetz Posted: December 31, 2003 at 11:50 PM (#520539)

I didn't participate in this side project myself, because I didn't have time to rank the players. I did vote on MLB.com using the actual ballot. I selected 6 players as Hall-worthy and my 6 match the top-6(at least 12 ballot players) in this voting exactly!

4. jimd Posted: January 06, 2004 at 10:00 PM (#520541)

Dawson was on exactly half the ballots two years in a row. Weird.

Sandberg joins Rice and Sutter in the waiting room (over 50%).

Rice is running out of time before he joins Gil Hodges as the only player to get more than 50% from the writers and then not be elected later either by them or the VC.

5. jimd Posted: January 06, 2004 at 10:33 PM (#520542)

An article that may be of some interest here was posted at BP evaluating the current 2004 ballot using WARP-3. (Position players only though.)

6. Paul Wendt Posted: January 07, 2004 at 11:54 PM (#520543)

good for Sutter (~60), in contrast to Gossage (~41) and Lee Smith (~37).

good for Sandberg (up from 49 to 61).

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