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Friday, November 16, 2018

Mock 2019 Today’s Game Hall of Fame Election Results

BBTF does not recommend anyone for election for the 2019 Today’s Game committee election. Orel Hershiser received the most votes but fell well short of 75% needed for election.

Candidate		Percent	TOTALS
Orel Hershiser		30%	14
Will Clark		22%	10
Davey Johnson		22%	10
George Steinbrenner		22%	10
Lou Piniella		17%	8
Lee Smith		9%	4
Albert Belle		7%	3
Harold Baines		2%	1
Joe Carter		2%	1
Charlie Manuel		0%	0
Number of Voters			46

 

DL from MN Posted: November 16, 2018 at 01:23 PM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: November 16, 2018 at 01:28 PM (#5788481)
Thanks for participating. 2018 MMP voting will start soon, please consider voting in that election also.
   2. Rennie's Tenet Posted: November 16, 2018 at 02:23 PM (#5788521)
Wow, I voted for four and I think fewer than half the ballots contained any of those. Obviously, all these guys have a down side.
   3. DL from MN Posted: December 10, 2018 at 10:03 AM (#5795855)
Well, they elected the 6th and 8th best choices given the alternatives.
   4. Bourbon Samurai, what price fettucine? Posted: December 11, 2018 at 03:34 PM (#5796788)
all right, who voted for Baines?
   5. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 12, 2018 at 03:50 PM (#5797189)

Can someone explain the instructions for this ballot? I'm just curious because Clark is in the HOM but got very little support here. I realize that fewer people voted here than typically vote in the HOM, and Clark was only in an elect-me position on 28 of 51 ballots in the HOM (but still went in on the first ballot), so perhaps it was just a different group of people who voted here.

Clark has always struck me as a guy who doesn't really belong in the HOF, or it at best borderline, but that's because my personal HOF would be smaller than the real thing. He probably does belong in one that is as large as the current one.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 12, 2018 at 03:57 PM (#5797192)
Mock 2019 Today’s Game Hall of Fame Election Results
We'll probably get around to it, but I don't think we're going to be done mocking the 2018 Today’s Game Hall of Fame Election Results for quite a while.
   7. Ziggy's screen name Posted: December 12, 2018 at 04:02 PM (#5797199)
Re: Clark, I don't know, and don't vote in HOM, but when someone questionable gets elected it's usually because the HOM elects X players each year, and there sometimes just aren't very many interesting candidates in any given year.
   8. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 12, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5797208)
#7, Clark did go in on a pretty weak ballot with relatively low consensus, but it was his first ballot and he was the clear top choice (#1 on 20 out of 51 ballots; the next highest was on 5). He got more votes than Nettles and Alejandro Oms, who also went in that year, but also Reggie Smith, Brett Saberhagen, and John McGraw, who also subsequently went in.

It just seemed strange, in light of that, that he got so little support here. It seems like an acknowledgement by the HOM voters that the HOF and HOM simply include too many players.
   9. Carl Goetz Posted: December 12, 2018 at 04:46 PM (#5797221)
I personally think Clark is borderline but he is on the 'in' side of borderline. That said, looking at 2006 results, there's several guys I rank ahead of him that did not get elected that year or since.
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: December 12, 2018 at 07:50 PM (#5797269)
#7, Clark did go in on a pretty weak ballot with relatively low consensus, but it was his first ballot and he was the clear top choice (#1 on 20 out of 51 ballots; the next highest was on 5). He got more votes than Nettles and Alejandro Oms, who also went in that year, but also Reggie Smith, Brett Saberhagen, and John McGraw, who also subsequently went in.

It just seemed strange, in light of that, that he got so little support here. It seems like an acknowledgement by the HOM voters that the HOF and HOM simply include too many players.


I think it's a combo of factors
1. no ranking system requiring votes, mean it's a feel test...is this guy worthy or not, instead of saying "let's rank these guys."
2. Guys like me who don't vote in the hom participated in that vote.
3. The fact that the hof has a pretty decent number of clearly better candidates not in the hof right now, and Clark not remotely being the 'best available' candidate, probably hurt.(not talking about best on ballot...but it's a hof without Simmons, Grich, and a dozen others that the hom put in.... why put in Clark when other deserving guys aren't in?")
4. There is no penalty for a blank ballot. And in fact it was somewhat encouraged to be honest. People came out of the woodwork to vote no(I was one of them) on everyone.

   11. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 13, 2018 at 12:45 PM (#5797452)

Thanks cfb. Were there actual instructions posted anywhere? Or was it simply to vote as though you were a member of the Today's Game committee, however one might interpret that.

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