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Wednesday, December 23, 2015

Mock Hall of Fame Ballot 2016: Results

BBTF recommends 9 players for election: Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Ken Griffey Jr, Mike Mussina, Mike Piazza, Tim Raines, Curt Schilling and Alan Trammell.

Percent	Player
99%	Ken Griffey Jr.
96%	Jeff Bagwell
96%	Mike Piazza
92%	Barry Bonds
92%	Roger Clemens
91%	Tim Raines
87%	Mike Mussina
81%	Alan Trammell
80%	Curt Schilling
41%	Larry Walker
39%	Edgar Martinez
37%	Mark McGwire
17%	Jim Edmonds
15%	Sammy Sosa
5%	Fred McGriff
5%	Gary Sheffield
3%	Jeff Kent
1%	Nomar Garciaparra
0%	Garret Anderson
0%	Brad Ausmus
0%	Luis Castillo
0%	David Eckstein
0%	Troy Glaus
0%	Mark Grudzielanek
0%	Mike Hampton
0%	Trevor Hoffman
0%	Jason Kendall
0%	Mike Lowell
0%	Lee Smith
0%	Mike Sweeney
0%	Billy Wagner
0%	Randy Winn

733 votes from 75 ballots

DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2015 at 02:14 PM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2015 at 02:20 PM (#5119350)
Based on the referendum results and previous ballots BBTF has already recommended the following be inducted:

Jeff Bagwell
Barry Bonds
Roger Clemens
Edgar Martinez
Mark McGwire
Mike Mussina
Mike Piazza
Tim Raines
Curt Schilling
Sammy Sosa
Alan Trammell
Larry Walker

That means Griffey is the only "new" player. I am curious to see how Edmonds would do on an empty ballot.
   2. cardsfanboy Posted: December 23, 2015 at 02:33 PM (#5119364)
I would fully 100% support that result if it happened.

That means Griffey is the only "new" player. I am curious to see how Edmonds would do on an empty ballot.


I think he goes in on an empty ballot, but it would be interesting to see what he would do on a ballot with only 7 clear hofers on it, instead of this ballot.
   3. craigamazing Posted: December 23, 2015 at 02:44 PM (#5119377)
Interesting that Trammell, widely viewed as a slam-dunk case on BTF (with far more support than in the BBWAA), only gets to 80 percent here. Just shows how horribly hard it is to get to 75% when the ballot is so stacked.
   4. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: December 23, 2015 at 02:50 PM (#5119389)
Seven electees! Yay consensus!

Poor Jeff Kent, though.
   5. DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2015 at 02:54 PM (#5119395)
A majority here support Jeff Kent as seen in the referendum results but he can't get above 4% support on this ballot.
   6. jmurph Posted: December 23, 2015 at 03:43 PM (#5119439)
BBTF recommends 9 players for election: Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Ken Griffey Jr, Mike Mussina, Mike Piazza, Tim Raines, Curt Schilling and Alan Trammell.


My ballot exactly. Looks like I need to change my handle to reflect my status as the prototypical BBTF poster.
   7. Fancy Crazy Town Banana Pants Handle Posted: December 23, 2015 at 03:49 PM (#5119443)
Seven electees! Yay consensus!

Been hitting the eggnog?
   8. Rob_Wood Posted: December 23, 2015 at 05:04 PM (#5119498)
DL,

This is my tally of the votes cast (counting Mike Webber):

Total Ballots Cast 75 75% threshold> 56.25
Sorted Full Name Sorted Votes

Ken Griffey Jr. 74
Jeff Bagwell 72
Mike Piazza 72
Barry Bonds 69
Roger Clemens 69
Tim Raines 68
Mike Mussina 65
Curt Schilling 61
Alan Trammell 60
Larry Walker 31
Edgar Martinez 29
Mark McGwire 27
Jim Edmonds 13
Sammy Sosa 10
Fred McGriff 5
Gary Sheffield 5
Jeff Kent 2
Nomar Garciaparra 1
Garret Anderson 0
Brad Ausmus 0
Luis Castillo 0
David Eckstein 0
Troy Glaus 0
Mark Grudzielanek 0
Mike Hampton 0
Trevor Hoffman 0
Jason Kendall 0
Mike Lowell 0
Lee Smith 0
Mike Sweeney 0
Billy Wagner 0
Randy Winn 0

Total ballots cast = 75

avg names per ballot 9.7733333333

voters with 10 names 69
voters with <10 names 6
   9. dr. scott Posted: December 23, 2015 at 06:11 PM (#5119531)
My ballot was basically the first 10, so either I'm part of, or I'm result of the groupthink... hmmm... yea kent Hoffman and Wagner seem to be the big losers here. I doubt any of them get in if the ballot is not so stacked, but they would have cleared the 5%.

Good to see even BBTF can't unanimously elect anyone either.
   10. Kiko Sakata Posted: December 23, 2015 at 06:23 PM (#5119538)
That's astounding that we were able to get 9 players to 75% with a 10-man ballot limit. That's a scary level of consensus!

It would be interesting to see what would happen if you dropped everybody in #1 from the ballot. Griffey would obviously sail in - probably unanimously (I assume his one omission here was a strategic omission from a full ballot) - but I'd be curious to see what peoples' opinions really are of Jim Edmonds, Jeff Kent, Trevor Hoffman, Gary Sheffield, and others, with no excuses for NOT voting for them other than "I don't think he's a Hall-of-Famer".
   11. BDC Posted: December 23, 2015 at 06:47 PM (#5119546)
I had McGwire and Sosa but omitted Mussina; otherwise, as the results.

I'm a little more appreciative of peak achievement than some others in this ballot, but McGwire and Sosa are OK per the referendum, I see, and I probably would have gone to Mussina as the eleventh on my own ballot. I don't know if it's groupthink; I just think there's still a ton of overqualified guys active on the ballot.
   12. cardsfanboy Posted: December 23, 2015 at 07:57 PM (#5119566)

It would be interesting to see what would happen if you dropped everybody in #1 from the ballot. Griffey would obviously sail in - probably unanimously (I assume his one omission here was a strategic omission from a full ballot) - but I'd be curious to see what peoples' opinions really are of Jim Edmonds, Jeff Kent, Trevor Hoffman, Gary Sheffield, and others, with no excuses for NOT voting for them other than "I don't think he's a Hall-of-Famer".


That is why on my ballot I listed who I voted for, who I would vote for if given a chance, and who I would be more interested in having a prolonged discussion about, Kent and Edmonds make that last group. I'm one of Jim Edmonds biggest fans(he's 1 month 8 days older than me...yes I'm a geek) but I need someone to convince me that my opinion is right or wrong. I think he's a clear hall of meriter, but hof is a different story, and I think his relative lack of career hurts him.
   13. cardsfanboy Posted: December 23, 2015 at 07:59 PM (#5119567)
My ballot was basically the first 10, so either I'm part of, or I'm result of the groupthink... hmmm... yea kent Hoffman and Wagner seem to be the big losers here. I doubt any of them get in if the ballot is not so stacked, but they would have cleared the 5%.

Good to see even BBTF can't unanimously elect anyone either.


That is one of the side effect good things about the system that the hof has set up, is that consensus is hard, but it also means that the low percentage guys are often given a second look(except the Whitakers, Simmons or Browns)
   14. DL from MN Posted: December 23, 2015 at 09:07 PM (#5119597)
Crap. I'll fix the tally later. Not sure who I missed.
   15. pikepredator Posted: December 24, 2015 at 08:32 AM (#5119681)
It would definitely be a much more interesting election if we remove all those sure-fire HOFers. It would make me take a good long look at guys like Edgar, Kent, Sheffield, Edmonds . . .
   16. Rusty Priske Posted: December 24, 2015 at 08:57 AM (#5119692)
Who didn't vote for Griffey?

My 10 were 10 of the top 11 (I continue to down-vote Piazza... I also recognize what sort of minority that puts me in)
   17. DL from MN Posted: December 24, 2015 at 09:52 AM (#5119725)
There was a full ballot without Griffey
   18. Rusty Priske Posted: December 24, 2015 at 10:23 AM (#5119745)
Yeah I have seen it now. Sounds like a 'strategic' voting thing.
   19. alilisd Posted: December 24, 2015 at 10:36 AM (#5119755)
Kiko, I would vote for Edmonds, Kent, and Sheffield. Much as it pains me to say it, I would not vote for Hoffman.
   20. Rally Posted: December 29, 2015 at 04:28 PM (#5121939)
There's more groupthink here than in the real voting group, which means Trammell and Mussina get in while Kent and McGriff support drops. But if you could convince voters to fill out their full 10 spots you might see a strong class like this put 6-7 guys in.
   21. DL from MN Posted: January 13, 2016 at 04:54 PM (#5133449)
I only have 72 ballots counted
   22. DL from MN Posted: January 13, 2016 at 05:01 PM (#5133466)
Found Meatwad, danb and McDowell - now I have 75

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