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Most Meritorious Player: 1945 Ballot

For 1945 each voter should rank the top 10 players from all leagues combined.

Balloting is scheduled to close at 4pm EDT on 1 August 2018.

Anyone can vote, even if you do not normally participate in Hall of Merit discussions. If you have never participated in an MMP election, just post a preliminary ballot in the discussion thread by 31 July 2018.

For detailed rules see one of our previous ballots.

DL from MN Posted: July 23, 2018 at 01:53 PM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: July 23, 2018 at 02:13 PM (#5714223)
1945 ballot

1) Hal Newhouser - best ERA and most innings, won games 5 and 7 in the World Series
2) Snuffy Stirnweiss - good bat and a good fielding SS
3) Stan Hack - great hitting year for Hack, postseason bonus
4) Tommy Holmes
5) Roy Campanella - best C and best player in NGL baseball
6) Eddie Lake - led the league in OBP
7) Roy Cullenbine - postseason bonus
8) Phil Cavaretta - small postseason bonus
9) Jackie Robinson - I have no trouble believing 26 year old NGL rookie Jackie Robinson was already as good as Eddie Lake and better than Vern Stephens. He had the best OPS+ in NGL baseball.
10) Nels Potter - good hitter for a pitcher

11-15) Preacher Roe, Eddie Stanky, Vern Stephens, Josh Gibson, Whitey Kurowski
16-22) Eugene Bremer, Verdell Mathis, Sam Jethroe, Roger Wolff, Dixie Walker, Roy Partlow, Augie Galan

   2. MrC. Posted: July 25, 2018 at 06:41 PM (#5715926)
1945 ballot

1. Hal Newhouser 12.02 WARR small post season bonus
2. Snuffy Stirnweiss 10.37 WARR
3. Eddie Lake 8.74 WARR
4. Nels Potter 7.45 WARR
5. Steve Gromek 6.85 WARR
6. Roy Cullenbine 6.66 WARR Post season bonus
7. Wally Moses 6.34 WARR
8. Tommy Holmes 6.25 WARR
9. Jackie Robinson 6.14 WARR
10. Dixie walker 6.12 WARR

Rest of the top 15
11. Stan Hack post season bonus
12. Preacher Roe
13. Josh Gibson
14. Carden Gillenwater
15. Phil Cavarretta
   3. DL from MN Posted: July 26, 2018 at 01:29 PM (#5716376)
Hi. This is Brock Hanke. I won’t be available to post a ballot on the ballot thread, so could someone please take this one from this thread and post it over to the Ballot Thread? Thanks in advance.

Here are my rankings:

1. Hal Newhouser
2. Snuffy Stirnweiss
3. Tommy Holmes
4. Stan Hack
5. Roy Campanella
6. Roy Cullenbine
7. Phil Cavaretta
8. Eddie Lake
9. Augie Galan
10. Vern Stephens
   4. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: July 29, 2018 at 12:52 PM (#5717649)
Final ballot-no postseason credit but some small credit for playing for a Division-contender

1. Hal Newhouser
2. Snuffy Stirnweiss -top AL position player
3. Tommy Holmes--top NL player
4. Roy Campanella--top non MLB player, not hard to believe Campy & Robinson would rank high based on how they did in late 40's in the NL
5. Phil Cavaretta--big part of Cubs run
6. Stan Hack--just behind teammate Cavaretta
7. Eddie Lake
8. Jackie Robinson
9. Dixie Walker
10.Roger Wolff--just edges Passeau for last spot

Honorable mention--Claude Passeau NL pitching MMP

A few guys on list and a lot of guys considered had by far their best seasons while top stars were in military
   5. Chris Fluit Posted: July 31, 2018 at 08:06 PM (#5718748)
1945 Ballot

1. Hal Newhouser, P, Detroit Tigers: Easy number one with an MLB leading 195 ERA+ and 313 IP
2. Tommy Holmes, RF, Boston Braves: crushes the senior circuit with 175 OPS+ and 153 RC
3. Snuffy Stirnweiss, 2B, New York Yankees: 145 OPS+ and 115 RC lead the AL
4. Phil Cavaretta, 1B, Chicago Cubs: not as crazy an MVP pick as I had thought
5. Roy Campanella, C, Baltimore Elite Giants: best player in the Negro Leagues
6. Vern Stephens, SS, St. Louis Browns: 133 OPS+ and 95 RC are both top ten from this SS
7. Eddie Lake, SS, Boston Red Sox: 4th in AL with 137 OPS+ and +11 fielding at short
8. Stan Hack, 3B, Chicago Cubs: 132 OPS+ and +9 fielding
9. Hank Wyse, P, Chicago Cubs: 136 isn't eye-popping but those 278 IP are 2nd in the NL
10. Nels Potter, P, St. Louis Browns: 145 ERA+ and 255 IP

11. Whitey Kurowski, 3B, St. Louis Cardinals
12. Roger Wolff, P, Washington Senators
13. Red Barrett, P, Boston/St. Louis
14. Josh Gibson, C, Homestead Grays
15. Claude Passeau, P, Chicago Cubs
   6. DL from MN Posted: August 01, 2018 at 02:29 PM (#5719180)
Balloting is supposed to end today. Anyone need an extension?
   7. DL from MN Posted: August 01, 2018 at 05:02 PM (#5719271)
Only 5 voters so I am going to extend. Haven't heard from Murphy or Binkley.
   8. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 06, 2018 at 05:31 PM (#5721889)
Official 1945 MMP ballot (no postseason bonuses and a 5% reduction for AL players):

1) Hal Newhouser: Best ML player and pitcher.
2) Stan Hack: Best NL player and third baseman - close enough to have been #1 himself.
3) Snuffy Stirnweiss: Best ML second baseman.
4) Phil Cavaretta: Best ML first baseman.
5) Tommy Homes: Best ML right fielder.
6) Jackie Robinson: Best NeL second baseman.
7) Roy Campanella: Best NeL catcher.
8) Josh Gibson: No, I didn't segregate the NeL over here :-) - Josh was basically equal to Campy by my analysis.
9) Goody Rosen: Best ML center fielder.
10) Nels Potter

Best NL pitcher: Claude Passeau

PS Thought the election was the first Wednesday of the month like it used to be. Sorry. If I had gotten an e-mail, I would have posted it last week.
   9. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 07, 2018 at 06:09 AM (#5722135)
7) Roy Campanella: Best NeL catcher.


Best ML/NeL catcher, that is.
   10. DL from MN Posted: August 08, 2018 at 12:40 PM (#5723165)
August 1 was the first Wed of the month. I will close the election today at 3 eastern.
   11. DL from MN Posted: August 08, 2018 at 03:04 PM (#5723334)
Election over
   12. bjhanke Posted: August 11, 2018 at 09:22 AM (#5725097)
DL - Thanks for remembering to transfer my ballot from the Discussion thread to here. I was at GenCon while the ballot thread ran, running the Info Booth. One Info Booth. 60,000 attendees. I RUN that Info Booth. You can see why I had no time to vote. Thanks again, - Brock

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