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Tuesday, August 28, 2018

Most Meritorious Player: 1946 Ballot

For 1946 each voter should rank the top 10 players from all leagues combined.

Balloting is scheduled to close at 4pm EDT on 5 September 2018.

Anyone can vote, even if you do not normally participate in Hall of Merit discussions. If you have never participated in an MMP election, just post a preliminary ballot in the discussion thread by 4 Sept 2018.

For detailed rules see one of our previous ballots.

DL from MN Posted: August 28, 2018 at 05:12 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: August 28, 2018 at 05:36 PM (#5735077)
1946 Ballot

1) Ted Williams
2) Bob Feller
3) Stan Musial - these three are easy
4) Hal Newhouser
5) Johnny Pesky - great fielding numbers for Pesky and Doerr
6) Hank Greenberg - Greenberg and Keller hit a ton but not like Ted and Stan
7) Dizzy Trout - Detroit gets 3 of the top 10 plus Cullenbine but it wasn't enough to make the postseason
8) Eddie Stanky
9) Bobby Doerr
10) Charlie Keller

11-15) Pee Wee Reese, Jackie Robinson, Johnny Sain, Spud Chandler, Monte Irvin
16-20) Luke Appling, Josh Gibson, Johnny Mize, Roy Cullenbine, Larry Doby
21-25) Fritz Ostermueller, Hilton Smith, Lou Boudreau, Barney Brown, Enos Slaughter
   2. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: August 30, 2018 at 10:23 AM (#5736196)
Official 1946 MMP Ballot (no postseason bonuses and a deduction for AL players):

1) Ted Williams: Best ML player and left fielder.
2) Stan Musial: Best NL player and ML first baseman.
3) Josh Gibson: Best NeL player and ML/NeL catcher - last ballot for the greatest catcher of them all.
4) Hal Newhouser: Best ML pitcher.
5) Monte Irvin: Best ML/NeL shortstop.
6) Charlie Keller:
7) Willard Brown: Best ML/NeL center fielder.
8) Howie Pollet: Best NL pitcher.
9) Hank Greenberg: Best AL first baseman.
10) Spud Chandler: Best pitcher nicknamed for a potato.
   3. MrC. Posted: August 31, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5736987)
Final 1946 Ballot

1. Ted Williams 10.39 WARR
2. Hal Newhouser 9.01 WARR
3. Bob Feller 8.01 WARR
4. Hank Greenberg 7.72 WARR
5. Stan Musial 7.65 WARR
6. Dizzy Trout 7.46 WARR
7. Howie Pollet 7.38 WARR
8. Jackie Robinson 6.95 WARR
9. Charlie Keller 6.31 WARR
10. Johnny Mize 6.30 WARR


Rest of the top 15
11. Tex Hughson
12. Luke Appling
13. Monte Irvin
14. Josh Gibson
15. Phil Cavarretta
   4. DL from MN Posted: September 04, 2018 at 12:06 PM (#5738226)
3 ballots is not enough. I can extend if needed.
   5. Michael J. Binkley's anxiety closet Posted: September 04, 2018 at 02:50 PM (#5738354)
Sorry I missed the 1945 ballot. For posterity's sake, I would've ruined a Detroit pitcher's unanimity for the second year in a row by having Jackie Robinson at the top of my ballot (Newhouser would've been 2nd).

Anyway, on to my 1946 ballot:

1. Ted Williams (32.44)
2. Stan Musial (24.04) - NL MMP
3. Hal Newhouser (21.92) - MMPitcher
4. Josh Gibson (21.02) - NgL MMP
5. Bob Feller (20.94)
6. Johnny Sain (17.02) - NL MMPitcher
7. Johnny Mize (16.26)
8. Hank Greenberg (14.81)
9. Bobby Doerr (14.41)
10. Howie Pollet (13.02)

11-15. Jackie Robinson, Dizzy Trout, Johnny Pesky, Eddie Stanky, Pee Wee Reese.

   6. bjhanke Posted: September 05, 2018 at 02:36 AM (#5738783)

No comments. No time. Here’s my 1946 ballot. Brock Hanke

1. Ted Williams
2. Stan Musial
3. Bob Feller
4. Hal Newhouser
5. Monte Irvin
6. Johnny Pesky
7. Hanke Greenberg
8. Pee Wee Reese
9. Dizzy Trout
10. Mickey Vernon
   7. Chris Fluit Posted: September 05, 2018 at 01:18 PM (#5738988)
Hey DL, I'm planning to get a ballot in today but I might not be done by the 4 pm deadline. I'd appreciate a little latitude, if that's alright with you.
   8. DL from MN Posted: September 05, 2018 at 01:27 PM (#5738998)
No problem. Deadline extended to Friday 9/7, same time.
   9. caiman Posted: September 05, 2018 at 01:41 PM (#5739007)
Here's the RPA top rated players by the number of runs produced above the median:

1. Ted Williams 76.14 runs
2. Stan Musial 54.81 rus
3. Charlie Keller 49.08 runs
4. Hal Newhouser 44.94 runs
5. Johnny Mize 40.17 runs
6. Tex Hughson 38.68 runs
7. Roy Cullenbine 37.38 runs
8. Hank Greenberg 37.03 runs
9. Mickey Vernon 36.35 runs
10. Joe DiMaggio 29.89 runs

11. Stan Spence 29.47 runs
12. Hank Edwards 27.60 rus
13. Phil Cavarretta 27.17 runs
14. Spud Chandler 26.25 runs
15. Dizzy Trout 26.09 runs

16. Del Ennis 25.90 runs
17. Pat Seerey 25.21 runs
18. Eddie Stanky 25.11 runs
19. Augie Galan 24.95 runs
20. Dixie Walker 24.62 runs
   10. Chris Fluit Posted: September 05, 2018 at 02:48 PM (#5739051)
No problem. Deadline extended to Friday 9/7, same time.

Thanks. That's more than generous. I only needed a couple of hours.
   11. Chris Fluit Posted: September 05, 2018 at 02:59 PM (#5739063)
1946 Ballot

1. Ted Williams, LF, Boston Red Sox: Easy No. 1 with MLB leading OPS+ of 215 and RC of 170
2. Stan Musial, 1B/LF, St. Louis Cardinals: the best player in the NL by a wide margin
3. Hal Newhouser, P, Detroit Tigers: narrowly behind Musial, leads MLB with a 190 ERA+
4. Bob Feller, P, Cleveland Indians: world-beating 371 IP to go with a top five ERA+
5. Hank Greenberg, 1B, Detroit Tigers: 2nd in AL with 162 OPS+ and 118 RC
6. Johnny Mize, 1B, New York Giants: only 101 games played but 93 RC cracks the top ten thanks to a 186 OPS+
7. Howie Pollet, P, St. Louis Cardinals: best pitcher in the NL, 165 ERA+ and 266 IP both lead the senior circuit
8. Leon Day, P/PH, Newark Eagles: 168 ERA+, Negro League leading 103 strikeouts and added 170 OPS+ as a hitter/occasional pinch-hitter
9. Dizzy Trout, P, Detroit Tigers: 157 ERA+ and 276 IP
10. Johnny Pesky, SS, Boston Red Sox: 125 OPS+ cracks the AL top ten, +9 fielding at short

11. Johnny Sain, P, Boston Braves
12. Mickey Vernon, 1B, Washington Senators
13. Charlie Keller, LF, New York Yankees
14. Monte Irvin, SS, Newark Eagles
15. Larry Doby, 2B, Newark Eagles
   12. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: September 05, 2018 at 05:14 PM (#5739199)
No postseason credit but some small credit for playing for a Pennant-contender

1. Ted Williams
2. Stan Musial
3. Bob Feller--an insane number of innings
4. Hal Newhouser
5. Hanke Greenberg (I see what Brock did there ;-)
6. Johnny Pesky
7. Charlie Keller
8. Mickey Vernon
9. Johnny Sain--just over Pollet for top NL pitcher
10. Enos Slaughter
   13. bjhanke Posted: September 06, 2018 at 04:36 AM (#5739532)
Heh. What Brock actually did was typo, as he has done with those names for decades. If you live in STL, as I do, it's just amazing how many people take a look at your name and just assume that "Brock" must be the last name, so the "first" name is pronounced "Hank", no matter how it's spelled. And just for bonus laughs, "brock" is the Old English word for "badger." "Hanke" is the German word for "haunch." So I'm stuck with a name that translates to "badger butt." - Brocke

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