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Most Meritorious Player: 2017 Discussion

Most Meritorious Player: 2017 Discussion

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Player			WS	bWAR
Jose Altuve		36.7	8.3	
Aaron Judge		30.8	8.1
Giancarlo Stanton	32.2	7.6
Joey Votto		31.5	7.5
Nolan Arenado		24.2	7.2
Mike Trout		30.8	6.7
Andrelton Simmons	21.9	7.1
Jose Ramirez		28.4	6.9
Mookie Betts		24.2	6.4
Tommy Pham		20.1	6.4
Carlos Correa		25.2	6.3
Kris Bryant		29.8	6.1
Charlie Blackmon	32.4	6.0
Anthony Rendon		27.9	5.9
Paul Goldschmidt	26.6	5.8
Marcell Ozuna		26.7	5.7
Justin Turner		24.8	5.7
Justin Upton		22.0	5.6
Corey Seager		27.4	5.6
Francisco Lindor	25.7	5.3
Lorenzo Cain		24.7	5.3
Byron Buxton		15.4	5.1
Jonathan Schoop		25.4	5.1
Kevin Kiermaier		13.8	5.1
George Springer		24.2	5.0
Zack Cozart		18.6	4.9
Brett Gardner		18.7	4.9
Josh Donaldson		21.8	4.8
Chris Taylor		23.4	4.8
Jose Abreu		23.7	4.7
Elvis Andrus		25.0	4.7
Bryce Harper		21.9	4.7
Avisail Garcia		20.8	4.5
Freddie Freeman		22.9	4.5
Brian Dozier		27.1	4.5
Daniel Murphy		27.3	2.8
Josh Reddick		19.1	4.4
Anthony Rizzo		26.4	4.4
Marwin Gonzalez		23.7	4.3
Steven Souza		18.0	4.2
Cody Bellinger		22.9	4.2
JD Martinez		21.4	4.1
Nelson Cruz		22.9	4.1
Gary Sanchez		17.7	4.1
Alex Bregman		24.4	4.1
Eric Hosmer		26.4	4.0
Buster Posey		22.6	4.0
Travis Shaw		20.7	4.0
Jed Lowrie		22.4	4.0
Willson Contreras	13.6	3.9
Didi Gregorius		17.3	3.7
Justin Smoak		23.1	3.2

Pitcher 		WS	WAR
Corey Kluber		23.6	8.1
Max Scherzer		19.6	7.6
Stephen Strasburg	17.2	6.7
Gio Gonzalez		17.4	6.4
Justin Verlander	16.5	6.4
Zack Greinke		17.9	6.3
Chris Sale		21.1	6.1
Marcus Stroman		16.8	6.0
Robbie Ray		16.0	5.9
Carlos Carrasco		18.6	5.4
Luis Severino		16.0	5.3
Clayton Kershaw		18.8	5.0
Jacob deGrom		12.4	5.0
Ervin Santana		16.5	4.8
Andrew Cashner		12.5	4.7
Aaron Nola		11.7	4.1	
Chase Anderson		14.1	4.0
Drew Pomeranz		15.8	4.0
Zack Godley		12.1	4.0
James Paxton		11.3	3.9
Dallas Keuchel		12.6	3.9
Yu Darvish		12.2	3.9
Jason Vargas		13.0	3.8

Corey Knebel		16.4	3.7	
Archie Bradley		11.1	3.7
Craig Kimbrel		18.9	3.6
Andrew Miller		11.8	3.1
Kenley Jansen		18.4	3.0
David Robertson		13.1	2.9
Felipe Rivero		16.4	2.6
Brad Hand		14.4	2.8
DL from MN Posted: November 02, 2017 at 04:51 PM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. DL from MN Posted: November 02, 2017 at 05:54 PM (#5570176)
2017 Prelim

1) Jose Altuve - Great all-around season in a year with no runaway winner
2) Corey Kluber - best P
3) Max Scherzer - best NL pitcher
4) Aaron Judge - great bat, better fielder than I expected
5) Andrelton Simmons - Ozzie Smith type season
6) Giancarlo Stanton
7) Mike Trout - lowest I've ever placed him
8) Nolan Arenado
9) Jose Ramirez
10) Stephen Strasburg
11) Gio Gonzalez - If starting pitching is supposed to win championships....
12) Joey Votto - best bat
13) Carlos Correa
14) Justin Verlander
15) Zack Greinke

16-20) Charlie Blackmon, Anthony Rendon, Kris Bryant, Tommy Pham, Chris Sale
   2. lieiam Posted: November 04, 2017 at 12:03 PM (#5570954)
I've been out of the loop here and haven't voted in quite a while.
Still, I already generated my numbers and glad to see this thread is now open.

For 2017, I used a combination system and referenced WAR from fangraphs, baseball-reference and baseball gauge as well as win shares and win shares above bench.
No post season bonus; slight catcher bonus.

1 ALTUVE, JOSE 9146
2 JUDGE, AARON 8992
3 STANTON, GIANCARLO 8827
4 VOTTO, JOEY 8531
5 KLUBER, COREY 8489
6 TROUT, MIKE 8388
7 BLACKMON, CHARLIE 8213
8 BRYANT, KRIS 7821
9 RAMIREZ, JOSE 7666
10 SALE, CHRIS 7603
11 SCHERZER, MAX 7311
12 RENDON, ANTHONY 7227
13 CORREA, CARLOS 6903
14 GOLDSHMIDT, PAUL 6834
15 OZUNA, MARCELL 6657
   3. ThickieDon Posted: November 06, 2017 at 01:31 PM (#5571646)
1. Altuve - edges out Judge w/ post-season bump
2. Judge - historic rookie campaign
3. Trout - blew everyone away offensively, even Judge & Stanton; missed too much time
4. Stanton - most homers since Bonds in 2001
5. Votto - .320/.454/.578 is tough to argue against even with subpar baserunning and defense

6. J. Ramirez
7. Bryant
8. Blackmon
9. Pham
10. Kluber - best hurler

11. Rendon
12. Sale
13. Turner
14. Arenado
15. Scherzer
   4. Tubbs is Bobby Grich when he flys off the handle Posted: November 08, 2017 at 01:50 PM (#5573035)
DL, will you be putting together a discussion and vote for the Modern Baseball Era ballot?
   5. DL from MN Posted: November 09, 2017 at 11:02 AM (#5573459)
DL, will you be putting together a discussion and vote for the Modern Baseball Era ballot?


I will do a ballot next week.

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