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Sunday, September 03, 2006

Thurman Munson

Eligible in 1985.

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: September 03, 2006 at 11:54 PM | 124 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. fra paolo Posted: November 18, 2009 at 12:37 AM (#3390003)
You pretty much cherry picked

It was accidental. He had 1278 games at catcher, and a ten-and-a-half year career.
   102. Lassus Posted: November 18, 2009 at 01:05 AM (#3390015)
I've really enjoyed piecing together the vanished kevin's comments.

I have little to add here except I was the same age as Donelson when Thurman died, and if it hadn't been for Lennon a couple of years later, this would have definitely been THE JFK moment of my youth. I was at swim practice, and a kid we called "Shivers" came up and told me that Munson had died in a plane crash. I remember almost nothing of him playing, but I remember that like it was yesterday.
   103. sunnyday2 Posted: November 18, 2009 at 01:47 AM (#3390039)
I like Thurman though he's not on my ballot. He and Elston Howard are the borderline backlog catchers. But I like Howard better.
   104. Jay Z Posted: November 18, 2009 at 05:14 AM (#3390190)
One interesting thing about Munson. He was excellent at going from first to third. I recently ran through the Retrosheet data and did some baserunning queries. Munson was one of the best ever at going from first to third - really a surprise as a baserunner. Ted Simmons was a little below average, plus he got thrown out a ton, so not so good. Worst ever baserunner (1954-2007) by my measurements was Bob Boone.
   105. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: November 18, 2009 at 07:30 AM (#3390230)
B-R has done all that work for you. You're right, Munson was a very good base runner. I don't know why league averages aren't showing up right now, but they were around 45% on taking the extra base during Munson's era, so he was well above that. Of course, he did make a lot of outs on the bases as well, at or near the league lead many times.
   106. DL from MN Posted: November 19, 2009 at 03:47 PM (#3391092)
I have Wally Schang as a little better, Thurman is currently my top pure catcher in the HoVG.
   107. Bleed the Freak Posted: November 19, 2009 at 07:03 PM (#3391391)
I agree with DL, Munson is my top pure catcher. I have him as just outside my PHOM, and would have no problem with his election. I'd rather elect too many catchers than other positions. I see Gene Tenace as a smidge better, while Darrell Porter is a bit worse, and Elston Howard is worth considering. I don't see any other catchers noteworthy of consideration.
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