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Vada Pinson

Eligible in 1981

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: July 09, 2006 at 07:30 PM | 217 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   201. Howie Menckel Posted: January 20, 2008 at 05:09 PM (#2672426)
   202. Toledo66 Posted: February 16, 2008 at 11:41 PM (#2692761)
Do you think if Vada Pinson played for the Yankees or Bosox his whole career would have a chance for HOF ?

2,757 hits
256 Homers
305 Stolen bases
482 Doubles
122 Triples
   203. Paul Wendt Posted: February 17, 2008 at 01:50 AM (#2692845)
When Brooks Robinson and Bill Mazeroski made it into the hall, a big part of their legacy was their fielding, particularly Mazeroski. Perhaps too much time has passed but Pinson was an excellent fielder,a gold glover in 61' and led the NL in putouts from 59-61'

It is much more difficult for an outfielder to go far on a fielding legacy. Ashburn is an example, but
- he worked the Phillies games for more than 30 years before they elected him
- sabrmetrics and Rickey Henderson's example moved the "leadoff model" in his direction, away from Aparicio. I mean Rickey's walks not his steals (Aparicio had the steals). Ashburn's speed was valuable but mainly for things other than steals.

How to get into the Hall of Fame?
- get some big hits in the World Series, although it will take a lot to be the hero of the 1961 upset of the Yankees a la Mazeroski
- have a good year and then a good Series in the 1962 upset of the Yankees
- get just one more hit or fly or run at the right time and have a good Series in the 1964 upset of the Yankees

He doesn't need all three; the second and third will be enough.
It was a good team with close calls in '62 and '64. Unfortunately, Pinson was better in '63 and '65.
   204. Jeff K. Posted: February 17, 2008 at 02:04 AM (#2692852)
This is one of the more bizarre threads to keep popping up randomly.
   205. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: February 17, 2008 at 07:23 PM (#2693088)
Do you think if Vada Pinson played for the Yankees or Bosox his whole career would have a chance for HOF ?

Which Yankee or BoSox do you feel doesn't belong in the HOF?
   206. Toledo66 Posted: February 17, 2008 at 11:29 PM (#2693247)
I am not questioning any Yanks or Bosox players yet..

My only thoughts are would those stats be good enough in large market cities. Would the sports writers be more apt to vote for a guy with pretty good numbers.
Cincinnati had the Big Red Machine and a few World Championships , before that just 1961 World Series vs NY ; LOST IN 5, Pinson was 2- 22 batted 091, not the best to gain national recongition.

Also many people i talked too cannot believe Frank Robinson actually played 10 YEARS (1956-65 ) in Cincinnati before being traded to Baltimore in 66. Cincinnati was a very small market in 60s. Not much pub in those days..
   207. Vada Graves Posted: March 10, 2008 at 04:44 AM (#2709544)
I'm named after Vada Pinson - my father love his game. My father named me because he wanted to keep his name alive and missing the HOF would be pure robbery. And yes he hit with power and ran with speed "New Age Baseball Player" my father call him back then.
   208. kim pinson Posted: March 10, 2008 at 05:22 AM (#2709557)
To no. 207 how did you get my email address? We the family are not giving up we will get my dad in the hof. Email me again let me know who you are.
   209. kim pinson Posted: March 10, 2008 at 05:23 AM (#2709558)
Oh also hello Toledo66!
   210. Toledo66 Posted: March 11, 2008 at 10:16 AM (#2710287)
Hi Kim Pinson !!!

Please dont give up on your dads quest to the HALL !! You know im not , even on this thread i will continue spreading Vada Pinsons lagacy !!

I would like to get your email sometime , i will give you mine. Thanks.

   211. GrittyPlayer Posted: March 14, 2008 at 07:37 AM (#2712555)
I used to take the train from NYC to Philly just to see Vada play (1959 - 1961).
   212. Jeff K. Posted: October 11, 2009 at 08:37 PM (#3348901)
I will repeat what I said in #204.
   213. Alex meets the threshold for granular review Posted: October 11, 2009 at 10:34 PM (#3348961)
But you're complicit. It doesn't count!
   214. Repoz Posted: October 11, 2009 at 10:59 PM (#3348973)
It's nearing some sort of election time!
   215. Jeff K. Posted: October 12, 2009 at 12:23 AM (#3349023)
But you're complicit. It doesn't count!

<repoz imitation>
I am not a crook!
</repoz imitation>
   216. jingoist Posted: October 17, 2009 at 06:55 PM (#3355186)
If it does not fit you must acquit.
   217. Chicago Joe Posted: August 11, 2011 at 06:43 AM (#3897814)
I will repeat what I said in #204.

But do you believe it? With your whole heart?
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