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Zack Wheat

Eligible in 1933.

John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: March 14, 2007 at 05:23 PM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: March 14, 2007 at 05:30 PM (#2311913)

"Buck" Wheat was discussed in these threads:

1933 Ballot Discussion

Left Fielder Positional Thread

If you know of any others, please let me know.

2. Eric Chalek (Dr. Chaleeko) Posted: March 14, 2007 at 11:41 PM (#2312197)

I was going to list him with the All-Grains team, but there's no quinoas or millets to work with. But at least Bulghar was the backup to Kurt Warner, right?

Then I was going to list him among the All-Boston-Area-Indie-Bands Team, but Mission of Burmha, Standells, and Modern Lovers offers zero help.

Maybe the All-Futures team? There's got to be a Soy out there, right?

[slinks off, grumbling dejectedly to self...]

3. John (You Can Call Me Grandma) Murphy Posted: March 15, 2007 at 12:05 AM (#2312214)

(groan...)

:-D

4. yest Posted: March 15, 2007 at 07:11 AM (#2312420)

he can always go on the all time associated with Food team
positioning is based on where they played the most games

C Birdie Tebbetts
1B Dots Miller
2B Miller Huggins
SS Eddie Miller
3B Home Run Baker
RF Babe Ruth (the candy bar (form what I hear Ken Griffrey's and the "reggie Bar" wouldn't be consederd food))
CF Ty Cobb (the Georgan Peach)
LF Ducky Medwick

P David Cone
P Candy Cummings
P Fat Freddie Fitzsimmons
P Bob Lemon
P Jim (Cakes)Palmer
RP Goose Gossage

Bench Cookie Rojas
Bench Ken Berry 
Bench Zack Wheat
Bench Bing Miller
Bench Sam Rice
Bench Johnny Oates
Bench Pie Traynor
Bench Harry Rice
Bench Jim Rice
Bench Del Rice
Bench Taffy Wright
Bench Goose Goslin
Bench Rusty (Le Grand Orange) Staub
Bench Jack (Peach Pie) O'Connor

Bullpen Dan Quisenberry
Bullpen Mark (The Bird) Fidrych

5. Slinger Francisco Barrios (Dr. Memory) Posted: March 15, 2007 at 05:48 PM (#2312611)

Bakers and millers aren't food unless you're a cannibal or a Kodiak bear or something.

1B Dots Miller
2B Chico Salmon
SS Bobby Wine
3B Buck Weaver
Bench Preztels Getzein

I'd also favor:
C Ray "Cracker" Schalk
CF Turkey Stearnes
P Catfish Hunter

6. Boots Day Posted: March 15, 2007 at 06:25 PM (#2312626)

It's seems like cheating to use nicknames here (or even more egregiously, Babe Ruth, which isn't even the name of a food). I guess Pie Traynor is one thing, but Jim "Cakes" Palmer is another altogether.

There are so many legitimately good choices for this team: Darryl Strawberry, Chet Lemon, Dizzy and Steve Trout, Spud Chandler, Chili Davis, Kevin Bass, Danny Napoleon. Mayo Smith can be the manager.

7. Vrhovnik Posted: March 15, 2007 at 06:44 PM (#2312630)

Johnny Romano, Terry Crowley, Colby Lewis, Jon Leicester, and of course, Coot Veal.

8. DavidFoss Posted: March 15, 2007 at 06:48 PM (#2312633)

Pickles Dillhoefer

Its a nickname, but "Tomato Face" Cullop paints an amusing picture.

9. Vrhovnik Posted: March 15, 2007 at 06:56 PM (#2312638)

Sid Bream, Marlin Stuart, Frank "Noodles" Zupo

10. Cblau Posted: March 16, 2007 at 01:19 AM (#2312836)

The Standells are from Los Angeles, so that makes it even harder?

11. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 16, 2007 at 02:26 AM (#2312854)

If you're a contestant on "Fear Factor," add Jason Roach, Johnny Grubb and Bartolo Colon.

12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 16, 2007 at 03:19 AM (#2312864)

In addition to Ken, you also have Claude and Sean Berry, plus a few more. If you prefer meat, there's always Ralph Ham, Bob Veale, Joe Pate, Tim Salmon, etc.

Don't forget beverages: Todd Coffey, Fred Waters, Clarence Beers, Pedro Bo(u)rbon, Tinsley Ginn, and Bill Popp.

Also seasoning: Laurin and Ray Pepper (plus some others with that name), and all five guys named Curry.

13. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: March 16, 2007 at 03:49 AM (#2312869)

There are so many legitimately good choices for this team: Darryl Strawberry, Chet Lemon, Dizzy and Steve Trout, Spud Chandler, Chili Davis, Kevin Bass, Danny Napoleon. Mayo Smith can be the manager.

What was that about nicknames?

And if you are going for a pastry, go the HOFer instead.

14. Misirlou is bad, he's nationwide Posted: March 16, 2007 at 03:51 AM (#2312870)

What was that about nicknames?

"Chili" Davis should have been bolded too.

15. Boots Day Posted: March 16, 2007 at 05:00 AM (#2312880)

Spud Chandler's real name was Spurgeon, so Spud was a nickname in the same sense that the Willie in Willie Stargell was a nickname. Besides, as I said, Pie Traynor is one thing, but "the Georgia Peach" quite another. If the nickname is used to the point that no one knows the player's real first name, I think I have to allow it.

16. thok Posted: March 16, 2007 at 05:48 AM (#2312887)

Of course, Ty Cobb works as Corn on the Cobb, or Cobb salad. Obviously, both are stretches.

And no mention of Harmon Killebrew?

17. Paul Wendt Posted: March 17, 2007 at 02:44 PM (#2313391)

Mayo Smith can be the manager.

With fellow traveler Sam Mealy as bench coach.
How can I keep these guys straight? Short names with the same initials. Easy to distinguish from Hank Bauer but not from each other.

18. jingoist Posted: March 18, 2007 at 07:32 PM (#2313770)

Poor Zack Wheat; all his thread gets are jokes about all-food teams.
Certainly not Williams or Musial; he's got good company in the next tier with Burkett, Clarke and Delahanty and Simmons.
He is very highly placed in the Grey Ink aspect of bbref (I am well aware of the inherent weaknesses of solely basing a players worth on those numbers alone) but 27th is nothing to sneeze at either.

19. Howie Menckel Posted: March 19, 2007 at 12:55 AM (#2313853)

Wheat played on the 1927 Philadelphia A's, who won 93 games to finish 2nd to the juggernaut Yankees.
Teammates for Wheat, age 39, included Jack Quinn (43) and HOMers ECollins (40), Cobb (40), Grove (27), Simmons (25), Cochrane (24), and Foxx (19). That could have made for a heckuva book; or 1928, when Wheat's role was taken by replacement Tris Speaker (40).

Must have been a refreshing change for Zack from his 1909 debut, playing for a Brooklyn team that didn't have a single player that ever got a single HOM vote (Bill Dahlen got 2 AB for the 1910 Brooklyn version, at least).

And how'd you like to have been a schmo like Walter French or Bill Lamar, who each shared OF time with Cobb, Simmons, and Wheat in 1927?

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