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Wednesday, September 05, 2018

Join Jim’s OOTP League

About six years ago, I invited people to join my league. My request was successful and a few great people became valuable and fun additions to my Whalehead League. Due to a change in our simulation from Dynasty League Baseball (DLB) to Out of the Park Baseball (OOTP), we have three open teams. 

We are a hardcore, dependable, competitive, and funny bunch. If you are dependable, knowledgeable, competitive, and aren’t sensitive to trashtalk, I encourage you to contact me. If you are funny as well, you will find yourself on the top of my list. If you have experience with OOTP (and I know many site members are), you’ll have a leg up on current league members. If you have a masochistic streak, join and pick the open team in my division.

You can find more information at the league web site. I’m also happy to answer questions on this post.

Jim Furtado Posted: September 05, 2018 at 09:22 AM | 2 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Mike Posted: May 21, 2001 at 11:07 PM (#524205)
This is GREAT... I love the "columnists" links on the sidebar!

The Cincinnati Enquirer is spelled "Inquirer" on the Reds' links page, but their coverage has started to suck of late, so maybe they don't deserve to have it spelled right. <g>
   2. Law Boy Posted: May 21, 2001 at 11:52 PM (#524206)
In case anyone doubt's Phil's recommendation, I hereby second it. I accidentally stumbled upon Astrosconnection.com a few years ago, when I was looking for a discussion of the trade that sent Joe Morgan from Houston to Cincinnati. Not only was that thoroughly discussed (and very entertainingly), but Kev and Scott (the authors of the site) broke down virtually every significant trade the Astros made over the years. And I should note that I'm an A's fan from California, with little or no interest in Houston.... It's just a good site.

Side note to Jim -- I think BaseballNewsstand is great. However, I think it would be even better if you added some more regional papers which cover each team.

I am most familiar with the Bay Area teams, and I know the coverage they are given by the Sacramento Bee (my local paper). The Bee assigns at least 3 reporters to the A's and Giants (more after the Kings' season ends), and so including it along with the other Northern California papers would improve your "coverage" of the Athletics and Giants. (This is expecially true for feature writing, as opposed to the beat-writing.)

Perhaps the same would be true with other teams around the country, where daily newspapers located 50-100 miles from the home of a team have beat writers and columnists covering those teams, yet are not included in BaseballNewsstand.com.

If adding more papers is possible, that is my recommendation.
   3. Craig Calcaterra Posted: June 05, 2001 at 02:08 PM (#524210)
Other unwritten rules that, unfortunately, don't seem to be going away:

Black baseball players that do well are "gifted" or have "natural ability." White baseball players that do well are "hard workers" and "gritty."

Smart black baseball players are "articulate." Smart white baseball players are "smart."

I've heard each of these offensive old saws on broadcasts just this season. It amazes me.
   4. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: June 05, 2001 at 03:23 PM (#524211)
When batting, don't look at the catcher to see where he's setting up.

Don't hop in the air after making a catch.

If you're a rookie, don't make an umpire look bad.
   5. Pete Sommers Posted: June 05, 2001 at 04:43 PM (#524213)
When leading by one run in the 9th, guard the lines to protect against extra-base hits.

After a pitcher wins his first Gold Glove award, he shall be awarded a Gold Glove every year until he retires.

Pitchers must wear double-digit uniform numbers.

Uniform numbers above 39 are reserved for pitchers, except for 41, 44 and 51.

Batters must not cross in front of the catcher and the plate umpire to get to the batter's box, unless they're Jim Rice.
   6. Bruce Markusen Posted: June 05, 2001 at 05:32 PM (#524216)
Thanks for an interesting read, guys.

I just wanted to point out that some of the material being included here really don't pertain to unwritten rules, but are "axioms" or "sayings." In particular, I'm thinking of some of the racial stereotypes being listed. A rule should involve a "do" or a "don't" command, and not just an assessment or judgment.
   7. Cris E Posted: June 05, 2001 at 06:06 PM (#524217)
After getting an out the pitcher should remain professional so as to not show up the hitter (eg Carasco - Long). Unless it's an appropriate moment of course (like playoffs etc).

Leadoff hitters should take a few pitches so the guys on the bench can see what the pitcher's got.

When you have a guy on first and a full count send the runner with the pitch.

If a guy is close to a shutout he gets to stay in there.

There are lots of situational lefties but there's no such thing as a situational righty.

Quick question: isn't tipping pitches like a "tell" in poker, where your motion or demeanor changes depending on what you're about to throw? Something like arm angle or how you grip the ball before starting your motion, for example. Traschel was tipping his pitches, not the opponents.
   8. John Posted: June 06, 2001 at 05:32 PM (#524222)
Hey Stu, aren't you supposed to touch the base with your left foot?
   9. John Posted: June 06, 2001 at 06:22 PM (#524224)
John, Good point. I think that the actual current thinking is that it is more important not to break stride than to try to touch the bag with either foot, but alot of players do like to use their left foot to push off the bag and get momentum to second base. My rememberance of the "rule" is from years ago and the thinking was to cut the corner as short as possible. I thought this was of those "rules" that was counterproductive as some kids would slow up coming into the base. Maybe it was not a "rule", but bad coaching. Anyway, I agree with you that left foot may be better and not breaking stride should be the goal.
   10. Old Matt Posted: June 08, 2001 at 02:55 AM (#524235)
When a batter break his bat, pick up the biggest piece and toss it to him as he runs to first (but only if your name is Roger ;-) )
   11. Jim Furtado Posted: June 10, 2001 at 08:02 PM (#524241)
Maybe I'll have to break down the list into sections when I post it to the workbook area.

Thanks for the responses!
   12. Sean Forman Posted: July 03, 2001 at 03:07 AM (#524256)
I bought a Nomar BobbleHead (the cheap plastic kind) at Fenway last summer. Like Jim's BobbleHead, the smiling, gently nodding Nomah has brightened the days at my office immensely, though it hasn't gotten my thesis done yet. I finally realized that I was an adult when I was able to plop down $20 for such a thing and not have to worry one bit about my parents refusing or disapproving of the purchase.
   13. Eugene Freedman Posted: July 03, 2001 at 09:07 PM (#524258)
The best Orioles commercial this year is the Jerry Hairston dream of having his own Bobblehead doll night at Camden Yards. Sadly, in a week or so, Brady Anderson has one. All of the other O's ads involve the "young players" like Brook Fordyce and Chris Richard and are far from good. Aren't Richard and Fordyce 27 and 31 respectively? Are they young? The Kohlmeier ads are still running despite his complete failure. Young Jay Gibbons has no ads featuring him and he's both young and good.
   14. Jim Furtado Posted: July 28, 2001 at 07:16 PM (#524264)
Thanks for the notes.

Ahh, Adam. The article is a joke. Although my wife did accidentally break Mr. Rockie Bobblehead, she did apologize and offer to replace him. If I really wanted to complain about my wife, I'd write about the time she tossed out my lucky baseball shirt and ....
   15. The Original Gary Posted: July 29, 2001 at 09:02 PM (#524294)
It's nice to see that Schourek got a job in one of those Coors Lite commercials. You know the ones where the igloo or snowball falls on the guy's head but it isn't as cold as a Coors Lite. There are 3 or 4 different guys in these so you have to catch the right one. When you see it, you'll know.
   16. The Original Gary Posted: July 29, 2001 at 09:04 PM (#524266)
That's NOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

2-4 with a dinger and a CLUTCH hit with the bases juiced. NOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
   17. Sean Forman Posted: August 16, 2001 at 02:42 PM (#524296)
testing 1
   18. Sean Forman Posted: August 16, 2001 at 02:50 PM (#524297)
Testing 2
   19. Bob T Posted: December 31, 2001 at 05:22 PM (#524708)
I read the whole thing. Do I win a prize of some sort?

The most telling part of the report was the City stating that it doesn't have to worry about the Yankees or Mets moving somewhere else.

Is it ironic (By this I mean am I using the right word here) that the richest teams have the least amount of leverage in trying to obtain a new stadium?
   20. Bob T Posted: July 05, 2002 at 04:41 PM (#524726)
Ultimately wouldn't the only boycotts that would hurt the owners be by the corporate season ticket holders? Do the individual season ticket owners or game day ticket buyers make much of a difference? I suppose a massive boycott of TV would make a difference also, but it's not as if baseball is blowing everything else off the Nielsen charts.
   21. Robert Dudek Posted: July 06, 2002 at 03:36 AM (#524727)
The organized minor leagues are just extensions of MLB - they are not independent entities. Going to those games is the equivalent to reducing the level of subsidy (from MLB) necessary to keep these operations alive. That keeps money in owners' pockets. It also perpetuates a system where many players are trapped in the minor leagues earning a pittance, while even the least talented Major Leaguers are earning big bucks.

By all means go watch the independent minor leagues.
   22. Jim Furtado Posted: July 06, 2002 at 03:01 PM (#524729)
Bain,

Aren't we talking about degrees here? Sure, the owners are much more responsible for the situation than the players are. The players, though, aren't blame free.

If two guys attacked you, but one of them didn't hit you with a pipe or repeatedly kick you while you were down, would you be happy if the police let the less aggressive mugger free "because the other guy did the most damage?"

The owners' actions throughout the history of this conflict rightfully deserve our disdain. The players, however, deserve criticism for some of their actions/inactions as well.

As for the "heroic boycotts", I don't consider what I plan on doing as anything heroic. Instead, it's an practical expression of my disappointment in the quality of product MLB is producing. Whenever I come away disappointed from a business transaction, I voice my displeasure with my dollars.

Out of curiosity, what do you think fans should do? Should we simply ignore a play stoppage?
   23. steve Posted: July 11, 2002 at 03:04 PM (#524735)
the reason there has been 8 work stoppages in less than 30 years is because the owners and players know how really stupid baseball fans are. they know that no matter what, there will always be "fans" willing to pay big bucks for tickets, refreshments and merchandise. there will always be "fans" lining up like lemmings to get an autograph from some overpaid, arrogant ballplayer who really disdain them. there will always be "fans" cow-towing just to get a glimps of some ballplayer. baseball "fans" whine and complain about strikes, the cost of going to the ballpark and how vastly overpaid the owners and players are, but continue to pay and pay. in short, the reason they have stikes and lockouts are because they CAN-the "fans" let them. so go ahead "fans", complain, whine and let the owners and players spit in your faces like robby alomar, because as long as you continue to spend your money, you deserve it. i'll be here the next time when another stike looms and listen to how upset "fans" are and how you "won't put up with it again". you'll be back, you always are. and the players and owners know it. the bottom line is, "fans" need to stop complaining and stop with these lame threats of "fan strikes" and boycotts because "fans" are too gullible and lack the fortitude to do anything but continue to fuel the greed of players and owners.

p.s. i don't go to baseball games anymore, i don't buy merchandise, and i don't crawl to some mere man for autographs. it hasn't made a bit of difference to the players and owners, but it sure does make me feel better knowing i'm not contributing to their wallets.
   24. steve Posted: July 19, 2002 at 06:39 PM (#524740)
labor stoppages ARE a part of living in a free society. however, baseball is not LABOR. these people don't WORK, they play a GAME for goodness sakes. it is simply amazing how arrogant these ballplayers are. they equate what they do as "going to war" or "going into battle" when almost none of those sissies have spent a minute in the military. i've been to war and i'm here to tell you, baseball isn't war. it's barely a sport. baseball fans don't bat an eye when ballplayers earn $200 MILLION, but are happy seeing military men and women earning barely more than poverty level. if baseball fans are in such dire need of a hero, then go after the autographs of the REAL hero's, like cops, firefighters, doctors, emt's and the military men and women. it's funny, if the farmers went on strike then there's no food. if auto makers go on strike, there's no cars. if the electric company goes on strike, there's no power. if ballplayers go on strike, there's still food, cars and power. baseball players produce NOTHING. they suck off of society and give nothing back. look at what kind of role models they are. i know i don't want my son acting like roberto alomar or bonds or rocker. i DO want my son to be like colon powell or norman schwartzkopf, but then these are men of honor and integrity. baseball fans ooooh and ahhhh over cal ripken jr. and his streak of showing up for all of these games-oh my, how impressive. look at what you have to do. run a few hundred feet (if you get a hit) 3 or 4 times at bat. toss a ball. sit on the bench. now that is REALLY taxing, no wonder he's such a hero. fans really need to get a grip and focus on reality. let the baseball players go on strike and pray to God that the cops, firefighters, military and doctors don't. and if you're so intent on pissing your money away, then i'll get a PO box and you can just send it to me-i promise i won't go on strike or complain about making ONLY $2.5 million per year. thank you for your donations.
   25. SM in DC Posted: July 24, 2002 at 02:10 PM (#524741)
I don't know if I could be part of a fan strike, but I understand the frustration that would lead someone to it. I love baseball, I've tried to love football, I really enjoy hockey, I'm not too high on basketball and every four years sports like soccer, luge and track get me pretty excited... but I love baseball.

I just can't get behind turning my back on the game because the game has turned its back on me. I play in an adult league, which is fine for 40 or so days a year, and I go to minor league baseball games too... but what makes going to work everyday worth it and enjoyable is knowing that at some point during the week, I'll be able to either watch on TV/listen to on the radio/go to in person/or talk about a major league baseball game.

Its consistent. Its timeless. Its chess for the non-prodigy. The hit-and-run, the double play, the three-run homer -- these are what I look forward to.

Do hope there's no stoppage? Sure. Do I think one can be avoided? Not sure. But either way, I'll still go to games, I'll still love the game and I don't think I can turn that on and off.
   26. Flynn Posted: August 01, 2002 at 09:01 AM (#524267)
see if this works

<I> Nomar Rules <I>

<B> Pedro Rules <B>
   27. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: April 09, 2003 at 06:13 AM (#524309)
I think that all you people making fun of James Pidutti are all jealous and have nothing else better to do. He obviously has talent if the Blue Jays are interested in him. I personally think that he is going to do the best that he possibly could do to make it to the big leagues, even making it this far is something to be proud of. He as an awesome arm that is going to take him places, very good for being left handed. He is a good well rounder player, not only is he good at pitching but he excels anywhere on the field. We are all very proud of him, us Sudburians, and we wish him the best. And for people making smart comments it just shows your insecurities and that you wish you could be.
   28. Josh Posted: July 22, 2003 at 03:47 PM (#524327)
Pidutti is 2nd on his minor league team in ERA. right now. Keep up the good work!
   29. Shredder Posted: September 18, 2003 at 05:57 PM (#524339)
What kind of nut house are you running here, Furtado?
   30. User unknown in local recipient table (Craig B) Posted: September 18, 2003 at 06:44 PM (#524341)
We've had James (and his weird cronies) drop in over at Batter's Box as well. His numbers at Pulaski aren't exactly inspiring, but he is bound to have a rough patch or two to begin his career as he is a converted outfielder.
   31. Boileryard Posted: October 28, 2003 at 04:13 AM (#524359)
I stummbled across this site searching on who and how to contact someone to get drafted. I like the site; even with all the $&*% talking. James, if you love the game I hope you make it all the way. You sound like a very talented pitcher and wish the best. I went to DCCC out of high school but left because it wasnt for me. When did you attend? Anyways, I need some help on how and who I could contact to get a scout to look at me. I have always been underlooked by most as just a good pitcher, but sprouted this last year when i actually started giving everything i have and throw 87-93 with a splitty/fork(whatever one would call it) and a slider. Problem is that I am a righty. Damn! I have never really seen any scouts at games and want to get looked at. I give my whole life to this game and would live off the 850 a month for the rest of my playing days if i could. I just want to play my dream because it is what i live for and revolve around and know i could get batters out. Any suggestions from you James or anyone else. I dont know who to talk to. I guess sometimes you just need to know the right people.
   32. Boileryard Posted: October 31, 2003 at 05:48 PM (#524361)
Thanks for writing back. I went to DCCC in 2000 but left only a month after because i hated it there; it wasnt a team. I am attending school in Kansas at the university of st. mary. I only have two years left for someone to see me and hope it happens. I was invited to play semi-pro last year in Clarenda Iowa but hurt my arm last spring and couldnt go. Im almost 100% now and ready to kick some ass. I did what you said and talked to my coach about getting someone to look at me and he said it wouldnt be a problem so hopefully it wont. I almost got looked at by the yankees last year before i got tendonitis in my shoulder. I went from high to low that quickly because my arm wasnt the same all year and my coach didnt bother with the yankees because i was hurt. This summer i went to doctors and therapists and got it taken care of and should be back in the 90's in no time. I played against cowley these past two seasons. They had scouts but i didnt pitch with a healthy arm. They were there to scout a guy name Josh Wahpepah. He got drafted in the 18th round. I went to Highland CC then. I really appriciate your help man. I live near KC and will look for camps with the Royals. Hey what kind of work do you do when it is out of season? I dont understand how you guys in the minors get by especially in a short season. Does the team hook you up with a job? Hey man good luck with your up coming season. Hope you make a long season team. Your one of few that get to enjoy this game and get paid for it. Hope you make it in those 4-6 years. I'll be up there soon enough if i can find someone to take a look at me. Thanks again for writing back.
   33. Sean Forman Posted: March 18, 2004 at 07:38 PM (#14)
I feel it should work in 800 x 600

The font looks very small to me.

The dropdowns don't go away when I don't mouse away from the categories.

The user admin areas have a different look and feel than the main site.

Preview and submit buttons should be farther apart and perhaps in a different order.

The preview page is very confusing. It is unclear what is the preview and what is the editing. I think it should be a very simple page with just the option to edit or submit without links to other blog entries, etc. Also, it does not have the standard page header that is on the other pages.

You might want to have subheads on the different sections describing what they are for. Like baseballprimer "the old clutch hits".

How do I post at ntr Mike Piazza?

Has anyone ever wanted to know about follow up comments? Also, that could reduce traffic as you want people to check back to the site rather than wait for e-mail alerts.

E-mail alerts for new blog postings probably are a good idea, however.

I would get rid of everything below the form buttons on the preview page.

Sean
   34. Sean Forman Posted: March 18, 2004 at 07:39 PM (#15)
Is the rss stuff working. I click on those, but they don't seem to bring up any rss.
   35. Sean Forman Posted: March 18, 2004 at 07:40 PM (#16)
I think that there needs to be clearer differentiation between the comments. I think something similar to how it is on primer now with the posting info at the top instead of the bottom of the comment.

I think the font is far too small for the text as well.

Jim, I'm going to be blunt, just so you know how I feel. Overall, I think it will be a HUGE improvement.
   36. Sean Forman Posted: March 18, 2004 at 07:41 PM (#17)
Looks like there is an issues with the hot topics box for baseball primer. The date isn't presenting correctly.
   37. Sean Forman Posted: March 18, 2004 at 07:54 PM (#18)
It doesn't look like the html embedded into the posts (see Randall Simon post) are working correctly. There are <I> tags appearing in that page.

Also, I've decided that the smaller font is really annoying.
   38. Sean Forman Posted: March 18, 2004 at 07:55 PM (#19)
There is no search. You should at least use google search.
   39. Jim Furtado Posted: March 19, 2004 at 01:16 AM (#20)
Sean, thanks for the feedback. I'll post more about this tomorrow.
   40. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:09 PM (#24)
I don't like the line spacing between two lines. I think they should be closer.


The preview shows posted by John Doe on a date in 3000.
   41. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:11 PM (#25)
I would make the numbers bold, so that it divides the posts better.

I'm partial to the way the comments appear on the current clutch hits, but I think it can be tweaked.
   42. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:13 PM (#26)
I assume this page still needs some work.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/main/categories/
   43. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:16 PM (#27)
I would add more space between posts and remove the amount of spacing within the posts themselves. The posts should be more compact. right now it is difficult to scan down and see where the posts start and stop.
   44. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:17 PM (#28)
You could put the submit way over on the right. You might also consider putting the Notify me below the actual submit buttons. you might check a month in to see how many emails are actually sent on this.
   45. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:19 PM (#29)
Can I view all of my comments on the site and search for others. It might make more since to put a link to their homepage after the date. and then link to their membership page with their name.
   46. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:25 PM (#30)
You will want to put

A NAME tags within the posts so I can do something like

href="thiscomment.html#6" to post to a particular comment.

Likewise in the hot topics bar add an end refeference like #Numcomments_comments so that the page appears as unvisited whenever a comment the user hasn't seen appears on the page.

Are visited and unvisited links the same color? If so, they should be different.
   47. Sean Forman Posted: March 19, 2004 at 05:28 PM (#31)
How do I post articles and blog entries for consideration?
   48. Dan Werr Posted: March 21, 2004 at 06:14 PM (#38)
I haven't seen this mentioned; sorry if I missed it:

In Netscape 7.1, on the front page, the "Baseball Primer" box at the top is too high--it's slightly under the top menu. The "Articles and Features" box is also too high, as it covers up the bottom of the "Blogpen" box.

In IE 6, these both look fine, so I don't know what the difference is.

Also, this doesn't make much difference, but in IE 6, the drop down menus protrude to the right of the top button, and in Netscape 7.1, they protrude to the left. I don't think it matters, but it looks slightly better in IE.

In my opinion, the "Notify me of follow-up comments" box should default to unchecked. Also, when I uncheck it when I first type my comment, and then preview, on the preview page it is checked again. It's not a big deal though.
   49. Dan Werr Posted: March 21, 2004 at 06:32 PM (#39)
Looking again, it seems every box (except Blogpen for some reason) is too high in Netscape 7.1. The box this thread is in, for example, is stuck partially up under the menu.
   50. Eric Enders Posted: March 21, 2004 at 09:40 PM (#43)
Using IE 6.0, you get a "this page has expired" message anytime you leave the "preview comment" page and try to return to it again (for example, if you're checking to make sure your links work). I guess that could be my browser settings, except I don't have this problem on the current site.

Will there be a "homepage" entry on the comment form? I see that each poster's name is a link to their homepage or email, which is great, but it would also be good to have a space like we currently do where people can enter a link which is relevant to that specific post.
   51. Jim Furtado Posted: March 21, 2004 at 11:36 PM (#48)
Eric,

If you type a link into the comment area and then preview your post, you'll find the link is automatically made clickable. If you then click on the link within the preview, the link will open in another browswer window. This worked for me in both Firefox and IE 6. Try again and tell me whether this works for you.
   52. WillYoung Posted: March 22, 2004 at 10:28 AM (#51)
Let's see how this works.
   53. Eric Enders Posted: March 22, 2004 at 01:44 PM (#52)
Jim,
No, that doesn't work. That's exactly what I was trying before. I just tried it again to be sure, same result. If I click on a link within the preview, I am taken to that link in the same browser window, not a new one. Then when I click "back" to return to the preview page, I get the "page has expired" message.

I'm using IE 6.0.2800.1106 and Windows XP Home if that makes a difference.
   54. Eric Enders Posted: March 22, 2004 at 01:53 PM (#54)
Is there going to be any way that I can continue to appear as "Eric Enders" on the author page, but as "The definitely immoral Eric Enders" in my Clutch Hit posts?

I think this is an issue for at least two other authors (SM in DC and GGC) as well.
   55. Dan Szymborski Posted: March 23, 2004 at 01:38 AM (#58)
The fonts look better now that they are bigger.

Thanks for speaking up Sean - I don't think Jim quite believed me when I said the fonts were a size smaller than all the other web pages I visit!
   56. Sean Forman Posted: March 24, 2004 at 10:13 PM (#64)
I think you should remove the space between the Posted by and the start of the comment. Make them more unified.

I also think you should add an a name tag to each of the posted by lines, so that people can link to an individual comment.
   57. Sean Forman Posted: March 24, 2004 at 10:18 PM (#67)
The images for baseballprimer and blogpen on the front page, should be clickable to those areas.

you'll also need an explanation of the changes.
   58. David Peng Posted: March 27, 2004 at 07:16 PM (#81)
Jim, I get run-time errors on everypage I go to at home (PC/XP IE6.0.2).

Runtime Error
Line 10
Object required

I have no idea what that means.
   59. S. Ransom Posted: March 28, 2004 at 02:04 AM (#82)
Jim - Still having problems with the drop-down menus using Safari on Mac OS X. I can only see one single selection and the selections appear on the top left of the window just under the words Members:Your Account.
   60. Geoff Young Posted: March 28, 2004 at 05:17 PM (#88)
Jim, I get the same error as David (post 27). I'm also on WinXP, using IE6.0.2.

No such error using NN4.79. However, the nav header displays as a big ugly list that takes up a good couple screens at 1024x768. I know you're aware of backward-compatiblity stuff, but I just thought I'd mention it.

Looking forward to the day when I don't have to test pages in NN4.x.
   61. Mike Emeigh Posted: March 30, 2004 at 07:27 PM (#95)
I got the same error yesterday that David and Geoff did on Win2K w/ IE 6.0.2, but it seems to have gone away today.
   62. Jim Furtado Posted: March 31, 2004 at 12:05 AM (#96)
Regarding the page error ... there is an error in the line of javascript that I use to display the dropdown menus in IE. I'll fix it later.
   63. Eric Enders Posted: March 31, 2004 at 05:31 PM (#97)
I am also getting a runtime error that says

Runtime Error
Line 10
Object required

in IE 6.0 and WinXP.

I've never gotten this error before, and I've been on the new site quite a bit. It just started happening today. I get the same error four times on each page I load in my browser.
   64. Eric Enders Posted: March 31, 2004 at 05:32 PM (#98)
Oops, correction, my error doesn't say Line 10, it says Line 9.
   65. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 20, 2004 at 11:10 PM (#524293)
   66. Chris Needham Posted: May 02, 2004 at 08:50 PM (#615868)
Primero! (Or something like that!)

Glad to be back! Thanks for your sleepless nights, Jim! I'll be sure to hit the tipjar sometime this week
   67. AdmiralAckbar Posted: May 02, 2004 at 08:57 PM (#615869)
Jim, thanks for all the work. I guess I should have warned you that upgrading the site would be a ... um ... what's the word I'm looking for?
   68. Eric in Madison Posted: May 02, 2004 at 08:57 PM (#615870)
Yay!

It looks great, Jim.

Thanks.
   69. K. Andrew Smith Posted: May 02, 2004 at 08:58 PM (#615871)
Good to see Primer back!
   70. Cowboy Popup Posted: May 02, 2004 at 08:58 PM (#615872)
YAY!!! Of course, I'm already getting lost, but the site looks awesome. Thanks.
   71. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:00 PM (#615873)
All good Jim.
   72. Johnny Grubb Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:01 PM (#615874)
Excellent... now let's talk about the Rockies going to a 4-man rotation... and how to create links.
   73. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:05 PM (#615875)
The site does look great. Thanks for the hard work!
   74. Andrew Edwards Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:31 PM (#615879)
Hooray!!!!

Ah ha!

I can now at least post comments.

Looks super, Jim. We need a FAQ, though, pretty badly.
   75. Jim Furtado Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:32 PM (#615880)
FYI. I'm still working on performance issues and a bunch of other things related to the upgrade.
   76. Andrew Edwards Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:34 PM (#615881)
First Discovery:

By clicking on Admiral Ackbar's name in #2, I can find out that he is, in fact, RB in DC.

Cool.
   77. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:35 PM (#615883)
Looks good, except that I've only been able to post once. Every other time, there's been no message box, even though I was very much logged in.

Other than that, great job. Seems a tad bit slow, but otherwise, very cool.

HTML Test
   78. Sean Gilman Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:35 PM (#615882)
:cheese:
   79. Zach Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:41 PM (#615884)
How do we post under pseudonyms?
   80. I Love LA (OFF) Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:42 PM (#615887)
New site looks great.
   81. The Original SJ Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:49 PM (#615890)
lets see if this is really me, sjohnny who is posting this.
   82. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:51 PM (#615891)
Testing...testing
   83. The Original SJ Posted: May 02, 2004 at 09:53 PM (#615892)
to explain that last post, according to the log on, i am not sjohnny.
   84. GGC Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:06 PM (#615895)
ntr Zach

test
   85. fracas' hope springs eternal Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:15 PM (#615899)
How do I feel about Primer being back? I think I can best explain it by channeling my 8-week-old, Molly:

"Whhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!!
Whhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!
Whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaahhh--"

Nipple!
"Mmmmph, mmmmm, mmmmmmphh..."

However, I must say I'm having the same trouble of being able to post in some threads but not others. It might be that I'm not recognized in threads that I've already viewed as a beta-tester, but I'm not certain.
   86. Jon Daly Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:23 PM (#615903)
Ok, that was weird. I thought I couldn't post, but I did.

Anyone else have Smarty Jones yesterday?
   87. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:23 PM (#615905)
Just for all those who were wondering, despite what might have happened (and might still be happening) I'm not Admiral Ackbar from #2
   88. Dan Szymborski Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:27 PM (#615906)
Dan can't post either.
   89. The other Ed Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:31 PM (#615907)
[insert witty "testing" note here]
   90. GGC Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:31 PM (#615908)
I did, Jon!
   91. Moe Jorgan Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:32 PM (#615909)
This is just great. I'm glad you fellas got the site running again, and I'm happy to be a part of it.
   92. Dr. House Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:33 PM (#615910)
Test, test.
   93. Scott B Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:38 PM (#615913)
Some damn javascript breaks PGUP, PGDWN on these pages.. hmmm..
   94. theberle Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:38 PM (#615914)
I'm lost!!!

Where's the lounge so I can post this???

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-only1may01,1,4423044.column
   95. Shredder Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:44 PM (#615916)
I'll give it a shot.
   96. Larry Bowa Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:44 PM (#615917)
You ****s want to register me, ask my email address, follow me around, see if I'm home by eleven, go ahead. I'll kick all your ***es!
   97. Darren Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:45 PM (#615918)
Um, hello? Hello. Someone took Darren. I am Darren. The real Darren. Alas, all is lost.

Also, I'm not seeing this box on some of the other discussions.
   98. The Original SJ Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:48 PM (#615919)
Hooray, the message box is back.
   99. JoeHova Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:49 PM (#615921)
Hello everybody!
   100. Bob Dobalina Posted: May 02, 2004 at 10:52 PM (#615924)
Not so good in Mozilla. Will stick with IE for awhile.
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