A little old, but I finally have time today to do this stuff. (h/t Roberto)
• Title: “Wonderful Ignorance”; subtitle: “The Past Is Always Going To Be With Us”
• Bill discusses SABR’s beginnings. It was smaller, allowing for more personal interaction, and more populated by “eccentrics”. He reminds us that founder Bob Davids was reluctant to publish more than one article every two years about statistical analysis in the SABR Journal. He says that of SABR’s 70 members at the time, only himself, ...
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1. Downtown BookieWhile their careers weren't "of that quality", the 1973 Giants had an outfield of Gary Maddox, Bobby Bonds, and Gary Matthews. Bonds was gone after '74, Maddox in the middle of '75, and Matthews after '76. The Giants finished above .500 only once between 1974 - 1980 (inclusive).
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I'm not sure if he meant to exaggerate here, but off the top of my head, the 1994 Indians had Albert Belle, Kenny Lofton, and Manny Ramirez. Those three went on to have pretty decent careers..
Maybe Belle and Lofton weren't "young" in the sense that he means it here (both were 27), but even so I think I would take the sum total of their careers from 1994 on than those Royals guys from 1999 on.
Really? By bb-ref WAR, Yaz tied for the greatest season of all-time by a position player not named Ruth. 193 OPS+ and +23 defensively (I bet that's too high, but he was regularly in that range (Fenway?) - considered a good fielder and won a bunch of Gold gloves, including that year).
I'd say that matches, if not trumps, the Royals trio.
Also WAR and a bunch of others have Posey in a comfortable lead on McCutchen. granted i did not realize this until today, and was a bit surprised.
I'm not sure in any event why we need a Triple Crown Score to determine the Triple Crowniness of a Triple Crown, when we already have several established ways to evaluate the value of seasons.
It's interesting that, since 1901, there have only been 16 team-seasons in which a team had two future HOF players younger than 25 in their outfield simultaneously; never three. Of those, there are only 8 outfielder pairs, and that 8 counts things like Musial's 12 games in 1941.
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Guys, guys. His point was that the Royals had a young outfield that good -- and yet sucked anyway. Those Red Sox and Indians teams won.
I hear more Dylan covers than Beatles covers - the latter is a different kind of inimitable. Not 12:1, of course.
And for f's sake let's not forget that those end-times Royals had the original "party like it's 1999" sooperstar--Jeremy Giambi!
Quick--without looking it up--who did the Royals get from the A's for the Jere-meister??
I'm not sure in any event why we need a Triple Crown Score to determine the Triple Crowniness of a Triple Crown, when we already have several established ways to evaluate the value of seasons.
Hey, Bill James knows how to gild that lily...and don't you forget it.
Brett Laxton? Is that a person? I remember being dumbfounded that Beane was able to get Jeremy G for such a low price.
another opinion
Quick--without looking it up--who did the Royals get from the A's for the Jere-meister??
The Transaction Analysis write-up by Christina Kahrl for this trade is the funniest thing I ever remember reading at BP. I don't have the keys anymore over there, but it had words maybe being as exact as: "watch as the wolf approaches the slow-witted goat".
1977 Expos had Andre Dawson (22), Warren Cromartie (23), and Ellis Valentine (22), then four years later subtracted Valentine & added 21-year-old Tim Raines.
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