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Professional baseball, at all levels, and maybe baseball in college, too, would have prospered more had Landis been more successful.
In a recent column Poz asked how the minor leagues could become independent again,
But you'd also probably see franchises folding frequently, like you do with teams in other independent minor leagues.
Have to agree with Jim(post 9) in today's climate there is no way that a minor league system would survive without a helping hand from MLB. With more national broadcast and easier access to pretty much any major league team you want, there is not as much of an incentive to follow a lesser team, when you can affiliate yourself with any of the major league teams.
Why would you think Pujols would be stuck in Topeka? Was Cobb, Speaker, Wagner...?
The 1922 campaign started out with more of the same for the other teams in the International loop. Finally in June, the owners around the league decided to do something about the Baltimore club’s dominance of the circuit. The International League executives held a secret meeting in New York without Dunn present. The group then issued an ultimatum to the Oriole leader. The crux of the statement was that if Dunn did not start selling off his best players to the majors, the owners would vote for the major league draft to be reinstated. These outclassed clubs figured they would rather lose out on player sales, as opposed to not having any fans showing up to their ballparks. Attendance was suffering around the league because it seemed now that the Orioles usually had the loop wrapped up by midsummer.
What's the point of harping on the Lefty Grove example? To show that MLB's ownership of the minors is good?
All systems have waste and abuse. I thought the idea was that a system of free trade and free agents was the one that had less, that fostered less, and that promoted the burgeoning of an enterprise and its markets in a general overarching sense.
Rickey's nickname was "El Cheapo."
Well, why is having independent college sports great? Isn't the Pujols of college football and basketball stuck in Birmingham or Baton Rouge? And why wouldn't it be better if they were more independent? Ask a college fan. That the NCAA acts in aggrandizement of its power in a way that MLB did and does, in restraint of trade, to control the talent and labor maybe shouldn't be tolerated either.
that was Dick Young's nickname for him--I'm not sure it was generally accepted at the time
I believe it was Jimmy Cannon, not Young.
Well, sure, there's an upside to monopolies also. Rockefeller thought so, as well as many others. What it comes down to,though is that it is good for them, and to hell with everything else (again, I refer to Landis's cross-exam of Rickey on this), because what's good for General Motors is good for the USA (the world and the universe). But do you deny the overall constricting effect of monopolies and activities in restraint of trade?
I guess you would have baseball equivalents of the Atlantic Coast Professional Basketball League out there.
Not that it is really pertinent to this discussion but there are baseball equivalents of the ACPBL; the Frontier League and the other un-affiliated minor leagues. One of the key marketing points for these leagues is that the players belong to the FL franchises and are not just part of an MLB chain. Not that Frontier League players don't come and go throughout the season because they certainly do; the point is that the local franchises have control of these moves and not some MLB front office, two thousand miles away. This allows the fans to become more invested in "their" team because it represents their town and is not just an MLB outpost.
First of all, if you believe free trade is best, then it follows that restraint of that trade can not be tolerated by definition.
Slogans fit well on banners.
Yeah, well, good luck fitting "If you believe free trade is best, then it follows that restraint of that trade can not be tolerated by definition" on a banner.
:>) Really. Jeez, who's doing the fobbing off. I made extended arguments, and then you cherry-pick an easy escape route, adopting a self-righteous pose as you avail yourself of it. That's beautiful. A BTF primey.
To go back to independently owned minor leagues, you'd have to have a clear limitation on the holds that minor league owners could have on their players, perhaps as little as a year or two. At that point they'd have to offer them either to the highest bidder, or place them in an annual draft pool.
One could make the argument than professional sports leagues are Natural Monopolies. That the "baseball market" is improved by having a monopoly such that all the best players are in the same league, competing against each other.
* I would have liked to have seen the Rays fail to make the post season after keeping Myers down. I understand why that sort of thing is done, but penalizing an employee for performing well is not a good business model and one that needs to go away.
Question: Is there a major skills development element to soccer, or is it mostly about just waiting for the players' bodies to mature?
But if you loan out your young talent, you're right back to the minor league system, basically.
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