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I'm pretty sure that 90% of the people that watched that play will forget in less than a year either how the game ended and/or who it was that was picked off.
This isn't going to haunt him at all.
You're probably correct. The Cards don't have the despair-of-defeat narrative to turn this into something like Buckner or Bartman (but why not Leon Durham or Alex Gonzalez?).
At least when the Sox actually won one, they largely let the Bucknor stuff go, invited him back to Fenway, where he got a great reception.
They invited him back as a player in 1990, where he got a great reception. The whole Boston has been so mean to that stiff is mostly a Billy Buck production.
Oh please, Cardinals fans still ##### about the Denkinger call.
He just turned 23, and he will be held responsible for losing his team a World Series game, fair or not, and he knows it.
I couldn’t help but feel terribly
I couldn’t help but feel terribly
How well Wong's mistake is remembered is entirely dependent on whether the Cards win this World Series.
What are some examples of errors/misplays in the World Series that would have been a big deal had that team not gone ahead and won the Series?
Byung=Hyun Kim blowing saves in 2 games in the 2001 World Series eventually won by the Diamondbacks in 7 games on Tony Womack, Randy Johnson and Luis Gonzalez's heroics.
The whole Boston has been so mean to that stiff is mostly a Billy Buck production.
Willie McGee stayed at 3B on a OF FB in the 1982 World Series, prompting Howard Cosell to observe that "he looks a little bit like ET". Cardinal fans then replied that ET went home while McGee stayed at third.
Didnt Teufel let two balls roll through his legs in game 1 that cost the Mets the game? That's been forgotten.
does anyone have any opinion on what kind of a manager he was on the day-to-day, rather than big stage, level?
Not the WS, but if Chuck Knoblauch's 12th-inning idiocy in Game 2 of the ALCS had been followed by three more losses, rather than just one, thus denying the 114-win Yankees a spot in the World Series, I'm sure it would be far more infamous than it is.
Buckner's "production" on this matter has been that the Boston media has treated him poorly in that time. Which is what the Boston media do to people.
If you go with ALCS, I don't see how Dave Henderson turning a flyout into a Grich HR in the outfield in 1986 ALCS Game 5, putting the Angels up 3-2 in the game, 3 innings from winning the pennant, doesn't make the list.
Instead of being known for that, Henderson (at least in Boston) is known for hitting the go-ahead HR in the 9th, and the winning sac-fly in extras, in that game.
That play was actually in the first game -- the second first game -- of the '82 NLCS. McGee scorched one down the right-field line, and somehow when it got to the wall it just followed along the base of the wall past Claudell Washington all the way into right-center. McGee could have had a stand-up ITPHR, but pulled into third base with his head down, not looking at his coach. But it was a blowout win for the Cardinals anyway.
Sure, the Martyrs of Kirkwood will moan about it forever, but it won't keep cropping up in the national media or the consciousness of baseball fans outside of the perpetually aggrieved denizens of the Central West End.
Oh please, Cardinals fans still ##### about the Denkinger call. At least when the Sox actually won one, they largely let the Bucknor stuff go, invited him back to Fenway, where he got a great reception. Pretending that the Cardinals fans are super special and would never react like that, is precisely why everybody finds them so insufferable. They're the same as any other fanbase.
The Korean reliever who gave up those game-losing bombs in the Bronx in 2001 cried on the field,
What's wrong with crying? Doesn't comport with traditional gender stereotypes?
There was one guy who got caught stealing to end a World Series, and he never did shake it off.
Yep, and plenty of fans ##### about all types of plays.
The original claim was that cards fans were super-special, who are totally above that kind of behavior.
You're probably correct. The Cards don't have the despair-of-defeat narrative to turn this into something like Buckner or Bartman
Seaver cried when he left the Mets.
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