Yeah, that's how we roll on the NL West. We get worser as others stand pat. It's our way....

Shotgun start? WTH? Some kinda golf thing.

Shotgun start? WTH? Some kinda golf thing.

Its when, instead of every group starting on the first hole and teeing off in order and playing the course in order, they all start at the same time on a different holes and continue until they've played all 18 (in my experience, signaled by a wrist watch rather than a shotgun blast).

I have no idea what it means in this context. I don't think Sabean understands the words he's using here.

Shotgun start?

i.e. be active and you're bound to hit something.

If Heath Bell's performance with the Marlins is predictive of his future performance with the D-backs, it's probably a signal to Sabean to stand pat. Or maybe it means he can't trade Brian Wilson to the D-backs now.

"(in my experience, signaled by a wrist watch rather than a shotgun blast)."

geesh, if the course can't at least do an air horn, might as well take "shotgun start" out of the equation altogether.

:)

tends to be linked to "scramble" tournaments - golfers of varying levels of skill play as a team, each hitting a second shot from the spot of the best 1st shot, then each hitting from that spot until the ball is holed.

the closer you get to the hole, the more likely even a mediocre golfer might hit the best shot (or at least establish a "safe spot" where all the better golfers know they can live with that result if no one hits a great shot).

NL West has represented the NL in the WS twice in the last ten years, which is at least one time less than should be expected.

Bah !

“That’s the nature of our division,” Sabean said Sunday afternoon as the Giants prepared for Game 6.

"People do stupid things like those contracts we gave Barry Zito and Aaron Rowand, but sometimes they still win the World Series" he added.

So the Sox could have traded Crawford for Bell and Hanley...and then flipped Bell.

"(in my experience, signaled by a wrist watch rather than a shotgun blast)."

I was at a wedding this summer on a farm across the road from a golf course/shooting club. There was a lot of golf punctuated by gun shots...I never considered that they may have been the same activity!

NL West has represented the NL in the WS twice in the last ten years, which is at least one time less than should be expected.

The Cubs have represented the NL in the WS zero times in the last 67 years which is actually more times than you'd expect given how pathetic they have been. (I know, it surprised me too. It's the pancake flops that kill them.)

geesh, if the course can't at least do an air horn, might as well take "shotgun start" out of the equation altogether.

To be fair, I've only played ina couple of them, and mostly at a course adjacent to a shooting range (which isn't nearly noisy enough to carry across all 18 holes, so I can see why they shotgun part might have fallen out of favor)

NL West has represented the NL in the WS twice in the last ten years, which is at least one time less than should be expected.

I count three of the last ten: Giants in 2002 and 2010, Rockies in 2007.

To be fair, it's more like Barry Bonds represented the NL in 2002 rather than the Giants

If Sabean implies that people generally don't think much of the NL West... he's got that right... then again, on a relative level most people don't think much of any NL division as a whole....

I count three of the last ten: Giants in 2002 and 2010, Rockies in 2007.

Oops.... I included 2012....what a dumbarse....

Add the 2001 Arizona appearance and you get four in eleven.

I have no idea what it means in this context. I don't think Sabean understands the words he's using here.

He is saying everyone hits the ground running at the start of season. Sheesh guys, get your heads out of the spreadsheet and read some poetry once in a while..

Also that each team starts out in a different place, but is ready to compete from Day One.

if you're going to use a cliche, I say, at least make it one with a creative twist.

He is saying everyone hits the ground running at the start of season. Sheesh guys, get your heads out of the spreadsheet and read some poetry once in a while..

A poor metaphor indeed, as a shotgun start has no impact on quality of play.

That’s the nature of our division

Everytime I see this headline, I hear it said in Hyman Roth's voice (this is the business we’ve chosen)

Everytime I see this headline, I hear it said in Hyman Roth's voice (this is the business we’ve chosen)

As opposed to his less famous brother Hymen Roth who was removed earlier in the movie.

Seems to me that the way you guys are defining 'shotgun start' it's actually a very apt analogy (though strikes me as quite unlikely Sabean meant it that way). Aren't the Giants on the 17th green as the Diamondbacks have just hit their tee shot from the first hole?

the Diamondbacks slithered into action

I like to think the author gave a fist pump after he thought of this line.

As opposed to his less famous brother Hymen Roth who was removed earlier in the movie.

He was in the hospital a lot in the movie.