Friday, June 14, 2013
MLB suspends 8 in Dodgers/D-backs brawl
(espn.go.com)
Summary:
Ian Kennedy 10 games
Eric Hinske 5 games
JP Howell 2 games
Skip Shumaker 2 games
Mark McGwire 2 games
Ronald Belisario 1 game
Don Mattingly 1 game
Kirk Gibson 1 game
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1 2 >That pretty much sums it up. Although I admit that I think that Bauer is a bit of a head case and has a LOOOONG way to go to be able to be an effective major league pitcher.
I was expecting something stupid when I read the headline, but Bauer's tweet was tame and pretty mundane. I'd hate to think that tweet would hurt his standing within the organization.
Because Bauer has his own routine/throwing program, he may be seen as high maintenance by some of the coaching staff. He is also a very bright kid, but the kind that may come off as arrogant and anti-authority. Perhaps that is what "fallen out of favor" means, and the Diamondbacks are starting to question whether he is worth the trouble.
I would say that means he IS high maintenance. They don't know what to do with him and probably don't expect him to take their advice unless they drop everything to work around his schedule.
No, I'd start offering up in trades right way. So other teams can say "WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!?!"
I don't want to turn this into a political thread, but, as a Canadian, I'm genuinely curious.
What would Mitt Romney have offered over Barack Obama? Why did Mitt Romney have so much support? And why do so many people dislike Barack Obama? Are there legitimate reasons beyond the reflexive partisan bias that's so prevalent in your country?
Supposedly a better manager of the economy, which probably wouldn't be that difficult
He didn't. He was routed
For many people, no, it's all about partisanship. I personally love his handling of foreign policy and defense and am utterly underwhelmed by his cluelessness on how a capitalist economy is supposed to work. To me he's Jack Cust....a good but not great hitter and completely useless anywhere else. FWIW I voted for him 2008 because of his steadfast, unwavering stance on the Iraq war. He's done a good job ending the war, and now we needed a better economic steward.
Yeah you did.
Also, the Chris Rock message to white voters was hilarious.
$16 trillion in unsustainable debt growing faster than at any time in history with no solution ins sight is one big reason. But that doesn't mean that Romney could have solved that problem.
Yes, totally crushed him by 50.5% to 48%.
As for Bauer this seems pretty bizarre but I suppose could be a smart move if the D'Backs really do think he's too difficult to deal with and unlikely to pan out; selling high before his stock gets low over time. The problem if I'm an Arizona fan is this:
Towers is a guy that's hard to figure out as an exec, sometimes he seems really successful and other times you wonder why the hell he has spent so many years as a major league GM. The bust potential involved with him trading two valuable young commodities seems pretty high.
Wouldn't him doing his own thing be low maintenance?
I don't think so. If you're his coach or coordinator, you're still responsible for his development, but now you have to learn two systems and track and evaluate both. If you have a fleet of 1980's Dodges, even a much more reliable Honda is high-maintenance because it requires it's own tool-, part- and knowledge-base.
shoewizard, or others - why do you think Bauer has so far to go to be an effective major league pitcher? His stint in the majors wasn't great, but he dominated the minors and made the bigs the year after he was drafted. He has difficulty with not challenging big league hitters enough in the strike zone, and not being efficient enough, but his h/9 and k/9 rates are fabulous.
Can't the DBacks look in their own division and see that a guy who does it his own way CAN be successful?
Pissing away talent so you can conform to process is just stupid in a talent-driven industry. You can let a non-bathing, excellent programmer go because the difference between a fungible programmer and excellent programmer won't be even a rounding error on the bottom line, but a 21 year old pitcher with big upside?
(No fair guessing which group I fall into.)
Anyway... I really, really doubt politics have anything to do with any potential interest in moving Bauer (not sure if they actually want to do this, there's enough smoke out there that it's a possbility). He definitely seems like someone who marches to his own drum, which doesn't work in a lot of orgs unless you're consistently successful. Anyway, heck yeah I'd pursue him.
Secondarily, the quality of political discourse on BBTF is horrific (almost as bad as CDS). I don't want to delve too deeply, but economic growth is slow for many reasons. The incumbent will only garner a small win under those circumstances, regardless of the merit. (To get credit for the depression you prevented is nearly impossible, a bit like proving a negative.) The US did pretty well for itself in the past election.
That's not nearly enough. You'd have to throw in Adam Lind and maybe even Jeff Mathis.
Really? He had a 2.85 ERA and a 3.38 ERA in AAA last year (82 innings, all starting) and a 1.68 ERA and 2.72 FIP in AA last year(48 innings, all starting). Seems about major league ready to me.
Haha. Done!
This. Maybe one of those cases where the org knows something we don't?
I too would love to see the Diamondbacks trade Justin Upton for Trevor Bauer. That would be wild! A self-contained challenge trade!
estrada has been competent in the majors, hart is a legit 30 homer guy and green might be able to play at the major league level if someone gives him a steady job to find out.
hey, i am not claiming this a deal the d'backs cannot refuse. it's a deal based on the perception that arizona leadership is kind of loony so why not give it a shot?
you don't ask you don't get.
first rule of deal making.
hart has slugged over .500 3 straight seasons. fella can launch a baseball.
his speed has diminished, he isn't much of a right fielder, the whole ball four thing happens more by chance than design and he's 30 and i suspect going to be done as a regular in 2-3 years but other than that he's quite the catch
it's all downhill from here while at a higher price
no thanks
Rants, did you read that AA wants to go with on-hand talent for LF next year? So in case you didn't get your fill of Rajai in 2012...
I'm not quite sure how Arencibia will be valued. He's the starter again going into 2013, right?
Fangraphs posted a story about a potential Upton/Andrus trade and it struck me how I would never make that deal if I were Texas. It's pretty certain that the D-Backs are going to make a bad deal here. That's fine by me, as a Giants' fan.
What I don't get... why put this out there about Bauer? It hurts Bauer's value as a trade chip and it might piss Bauer off or hurt his confidence (he seems pretty damn confident, but there is a risk). So where's the upside for Arizona in poor-mouthing one of your most talented young players? Same thing with how they've handled Upton over the last year. If I was ownership I'd be pissed, but it seems like they are on board with these kinds of antics.
Can anyone tell me what Towers is trying to accomplish with this stuff?
Can anyone tell me what Towers is trying to accomplish with this stuff?
I agree, it's completely baffling. But like tshipman, as a Giants fan I say, please let the Arizona dysfunctionality grow and prosper.
An ordinary person would catch flack for something like that. Happens on Facebook every day. Why should a player be any different?
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