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he showed up weighing 251 pounds, 26 more than he weighed at the end of last season and 15 more than he weighed when he showed up the previous spring.
If Mattingly is fed up with him, I'm sure there are plenty of other teams willing to deal with Puig's "issues."
It's only a matter of time until this guy gets his ass kicked by someone. Everything about him screams out "disrespectful punk".
Speaking of which, I love how the bad karma the Braves accumulated from repeatedly drilling him last year is still ####### them in the ass ten ways to Sunday, as their pitchers are dropping like flies. Heyward's shattered jaw was obviously just the first of many indignities to come.
Always nice to know teams will look the other way when people drink and drive as long as they hit well.
There's a reason why the sabermetric crowd coined the phrase, Thrown Out On The Basepaths Like A Nincompoop.
An unasked question is why do these sorts of blunders -- and we can include fielding blunders here too -- aggravate "us" so much more than other blunders.
I'm telling you you're wrong. I'm telling you they are certainly no more and likely less avoidable than Escobar's flailing
But we all think we know the situation while watching it safely from our seats. That leads to a certainty that those mistakes are easy to avoid, but that wasn't how it was for me in my rudimentary experience with the game
According to tootblan.tumblr.com,
OTOH, some orioles fans b*tch and moan endlessly about the fact that Adam Jones can't lay off low and away sliders, which annoys me to no end. Yes, he'd be a much better player if he did, but it's not like he just decided "screw it, I'd rather strike out." He doesn't recognize the pitch! (His fielding, particularly his tendency to drift back on balls rather than running to a spot, is a more reasonable criticism IMO.)
Right, but in each sport, there are actual things that are more or less attributable to hard work or talent.
You mean basic, rudimentary plays like laying off a pitch in the dirt or a foot outside or being able to adequately field a position you've been playing for at least a decade or keeping your weight under control or taking a decent route to a flyball? There's no excuse for any of those. Those are every bit as much a mental mistake as getting caught off base,
Being in shape, running hard on the bases or in the field, knowing what the game situation is, concentrating on each pitch, etc., are far more about hard work and comittment than natural talent. That's why it pisses off fans and management so much when guys flub these aspects.
I'm with you on the staying in shape and running hard bits, but intelligence and ability to concentrate aren't really about those things.
Myself and Phil Coorey were at yesterday's game seated in front of some official Dodger staff and they were effing furious.
Sometimes you will be able to fix the problem but it is like "teaching" somebody to never misplace their keys.
Do you think that players know that the pitch is going to end up in the dirt but still choose to swing? I would think that the majority of hitters are just fooled by the pitcher.
Why are some players "fooled" more than others?
They are worse at baseball.
Earlier in the sabermetric revolution, I think having a low OBP was mistakenly viewed as some kind of character flaw, or at least something that could be corrected. Players who didn't walk much and who chased bad pitches were viewed as trying to pad their triple crown stats and sacrificing outs at the expense of taking the easy walk and helping the team. When many people throughout the game didn't realize the value of a walk, I think that was an understandable if mistaken perception. Several decades later, the value of OBP is pretty well understood within MLB, and even the most sabermetrically inclined organizations have not been very successful at helping guys develop plate discipline (moreover, too much focus on drawing walks at the developmental stage seems like it can have real negative effects).
Earlier in the sabermetric revolution, I think having a low OBP was mistakenly viewed as some kind of character flaw, or at least something that could be corrected.
Were either of you guys the Red Sox fan with the $40 hot dog they showed on TV?
Why are some players "fooled" more than others?
It's stunning that this has to be stated. Some hitters don't identify breaking pitches well out of the hand. They are, generally, amazing athletes with incredible baseball talents otherwise, but this is a weakness in their game. Not everyone has Ted Williams' eye. And barring some somewhat cutting edge sight improvement training processes that are nowhere near mainstream yet, you can't really teach "see the damned ball better." You can't improve that by trying harder. You can, or at least should be able to, improve "don't get thrown out taking stupid turns on the bases" by trying harder.
I used to ride Garrett Anderson HARD about this on AOL boards and usenet. Now I realize he was just too lazy to be more like Tim Salmon, so I don't hate him as much.
There's definitely a "tool" aspect, but there's also a big part that can be studied and improved. Knowing what OFs have poor, average or good arms. Noticing whether OF are playing deep or shallow, Studying a pitcher's move to first.
I think there's more that can be learned (given the constraint of your speed) than can't.
While I generally agree with this post, I do think that baserunning, like outfield defense for example, is also a sort of baseball tool that some players are just inherently better at. It's not a speed thing, more an intuitive capacity; Albert Pujols was slow, but just seemed to "get" baserunning, and Brett Gardner can fly, but still often looks mechanical out there, like he has to think through every move. Practice and drilling could almost certainly help, but some guys just seem clueless on the bases even if they're generally regarded as hard charging redasses who take the game as seriously as a heart attack. Jorge Posada, I'm looking in your direction...
Well, he was glacially slow. Also, as a C, I doubt he had much spare time to spend on his baserunning. The return on investment was always going to be much higher by working on his hitting, or working with the pitchers to gameplan.
As to improving a skill, I'm not sure how much practice can improve baserunning. Some, for sure, but how much?
If a guy's an absolute disaster on the basepaths, I suppose you could train/convince him to play an incredibly conservative, station-to-station baserunning game, but that has its own costs; now you've got a guy who can't go 1st to 3rd, can't score from 2B on a single, can't score from 1B on a double, and can't take advantage of pitches in the dirt, fielding miscues, etc. Not the end of the world if he can do other stuff well, like put up an OPS+ of 160.
But things like listening to the first/third base coach, running hard out of the box rather than admiring a long fly ball, and knowing the number of outs just require in game alertness and effort, not hours of practice. And there's no downside risk like there is with trying to steal bases. These are the easiest outs to avoid and extra bases to pick up, which is why it's especially frustrating when those kind of mistakes are made.
But let's not act like that doesn't count. Running into outs, giving up extra bases with poor judgement on throws, etc. counts. If you want to tally up double plays hit into, you have to count outs given away on the bases. If he can play like he played last year, especially at the start, he can have these weaknesses and still be valuable. But it will take his margin of error way down.
Knowing the number of outs is simply a matter of caring. No ballplayer is too dumb to remember the number of outs.
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