600* BBWAA writers voted, but no one saw a thing.
* give or take
Read More...This, I think, was what made the Bert Blyleven-Jack Morris Hall of Fame discussion so interesting. The statistics made it abundantly clear that Blyleven was not just a better pitcher than Morris but light years better. But Blyleven just doesn’t have the Van Doren Gene … and Morris does. And so the debate over which pitcher was better raged on; in some quarters it rages on still. People don’t just see Morris as a Hall of ...
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1. Walt Davis posted on January 10, 2013 at 07:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0Oh, wait....
The "elixir vitae" no doubt.
Now that I have turned 67 I only wish it was available over the counter.
But it's not about the records!
Gossage wasn't 1/3 of the pitcher Clemens was. Gossage wouldn't have been 1/3 of the pitcher Clemens was with steroids.
Neutralized stats per b-r:
Gossage 1757 innings, 678 ER, 3.47 ERA
Clemens 4888 innings, 1683 ER, 3.10 ERA
The difference between them is 3131 innings, 1005 ER, 2.89 ERA.
Clemens had Gossage's career. Then he pitched 3,131 innings at a 2.89 ERA - a level much better than Gossage was able to pitch at in relief.
There is one pitcher who doesn't belong in the same Hall of Fame as the other, if we're going there. But the one pitcher isn't who Gossage thinks it is.
Really Ray, Goose Gossage wasn't as good as Roger Clemens?
Yes, but only because Clemens took steroids while Gossage didn't.
This quote seems more critical out of context than may be intended.
Come on Spring Training. PLEASE!
Thank you.
That is so 1980s. Get with the times Goose.
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