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The Patriots have played in five of the last ten Super Bowls, winning three of them. That's not a dynasty?
this could actually be the first year since 1994 that the Yankees, Lakers, Celtics and Cowboys will have, all together, missed the playoffs.
Our chief weapon is surprise. Surprise and fear, fear and surprise, our two weapons are fear and surprise and ruthless efficiency. Our three weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.
Frankly I find dynasties to be hugely boring.
Some dynasties (Yankees/Celtics) are great, others (Lakers/Cowboys) not so much. It mostly depends on the character of the players.
Some dynasties (Yankees/Celtics) are great, others (Lakers/Cowboys) not so much
The Lakers have 2 stretches I'd call them a dynasty:
From '48/49 - 53/54 they won 5 titles in 6 years.
From '79/80 - '87/88 they won 5 titles in 9 years, and played for 2 more titles. (From '79/80 - '90/91 they played for 9 of the 12 championships).
What about 2000-2010?
Aren't you a Yankee and Celtic fan?
The most dominant dynasty has been UCLA basketball in the 60s and 70s. I guess I could see someone matching their 88-game win streak (*), but no one's going to touch either their 10 NCs in 12 years between 1964-75, or their seven straight NCs between 1967-73.
(*) Though it's extremely unlikely.
So no, I don't think that Wooden's record is ever going to be broken, neither the win streak nor the championship run.
Obviously dynasties in lesser sports/divisions are less impressive, but you also have/had UConn women's hoops, Kenyon swimming, Soviet hockey and US men's hoops.
1. UCLA (108) - makes sense.
2. Stanford (99) - of course
3. USC (98) - no doubt
4. Abilene Christian (58) - wait, what?
5. Kenyon (57) - swimming, okay
6. Simon Fraser (55) - aren't they in British Columbia?
7. Adams State (51) - huh
Abilene Christian has won 31 NCAA track and field championships.
And the NFL is even tougher, due to the draft and the relatively short careers. For dominance, two teams stand out, the 1946-55 Browns of the AAFC/NFL (7 championships and 10 title game appearances) and the Packers from 1960 through 1967 (5 championships in 6 appearances, and an 11-2-1 record in one of the two years they didn't make it). For long term success, it's hard to beat the Cowboys from the mid-60's through the mid-90's, and for continuous dominance / near-dominance in the modern era, I'd go with the last 12 years of the Patriots.
Except their 88 game (!!!!!) winning streak was from 1971-74. By then, the powers of the SEC and ACC (primarily Kentucky, North Carolina, NC State, and Maryland) had plenty of black players.
The NCAA never bothered to investigate UCLA during Wooden's time, part of its history of selective enforcement. During the 1960s and '70s, the organization, run by old white men, was too busy going after small, upstart programs that dared to play too many African-Americans, launching inquiries into Texas Western/UTEP, Western Kentucky, Centenary and Long Beach State.
The Times established that Gilbert, during Wooden's heyday, helped players get cars, clothes, airline tickets and scalpers' prices for UCLA season tickets. Gilbert allegedly even arranged abortions for players' girlfriends.
I'm assuming that Wooden had/has about the same cult of personality around him that JoePa did, and all the attendant corruption that causes/enables that has been decried around here.
Goose Givens at Kentucky, but that's at the tail end of the Wooden era.
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