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I threw three one-hitters
Well congratulations on achieving that along with Bob Welch, Danny Darwin, David Cone, Mike Scott, and Silvio Martinez.
I’ve been kind of a controversial figure in the Hall of Fame because of the cybernetics guys
Morris' numbers suffered after he joined the Blue Jays and pitched in the Skynet.
So RA Dickey made 67% of his HoF case in back-to-back starts this past season?
I threw a no-hitter. And they don’t even talk about those.”
“I think there’s a lot more to my career than that, too,” Morris said. “I kind of chuckle inside when people always talk to me about that. And it’s like, ‘Gosh, I pitched a lot of baseball games.’ I threw three one-hitters, I threw a no-hitter. And they don’t even talk about those.”
Bud Smith and Jose Jimenez feel your pain.
One of the things I regret abOut the hof debates is that I constantly have to read about Morris as though he wAs terrible. He's become this line in the sand so people feel they have to underscore his non all time great status in a way they don't do for say Dave stewart.
Did the HOF electorate change their minds just to make sure they disagreed with those new-fangled numbers? Or, in light of the cyber crowd's discussion, did they honestly re-evaluate Jack's career and realize they hadn't recognized his greatness until many years after his retirement?
I think the thing is that a lot of the Morris for HoF support seems after-the-fact; most of us remember him as "pretty good" but not "super-awesome" and then you get younger fans like me who saw him at the end and recall him as "good, but not as good as Tapani or Erickson or Key or Stottlemyre or Stewart."
A 21 win 1992 with an ERA+ of 101? Is that the lowest ERA+ for a 20 game winnein Morris' era? I know that Spahn had an 98 ERA+ when he won 21 in 1960.
Robot-like numbers-crunchers aside
34. Walt Davis Posted: December 03, 2012 at 09:33 PM (#4315920)
Wood 1974 - 105
also 19 losses. No that's not a "double record" as he lost 20 the year before with a 116 ERA+. 76 losses in 4 seasons -- now that might be a record.
4/20/1983. He pitched to the score, blowing a 6-1 lead in a game the Royals won 8-7. Brett went 4-5, 7 RBI and 3 HR's.
Joe Niekro won 20 games in 1980 with an ERA+ of 93. There might be others, but Morris' 92 is still exceptional in that regard.
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