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the seinfeld show wasn't funny
A by-product of the hypermacho American culture.
Seinfeld was the XKCD of the 90's.
Jolly Old St. Nick Still Gags in October Posted: June 27, 2014 at 12:16 PM (#4737412)
I'm certainly not alone considering the ratings the show got. Hard to believe its been about 15 years since the show went off the air.
It's still enough of a draw that it runs for two straight hours on TBS every night. I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't see the humor in it.
But, XKCD isn't funny.
Oh...I see what you did there.
and if those horrible people really have set the tone for the nastiness that is supposed to pass for Funny, then i detest them even more
That's the point. They're both ordinary slice of life stuff filtered through a lens of wickedly precise snark. You'll either get both or not.
- well, that's me. i don't get their humor any more than i get grumpy cat telling people to drop dead. or pics of 50s housewives telling other people how awful they are, so awful that they are justified in drinking all the time. or maybe i'm just so d**n tired of all the cruelty, viciousness and hate out there that i just can't find it funny at all. and if those horrible people really have set the tone for the nastiness that is supposed to pass for Funny, then i detest them even more
Can we take this as an opportunity to bash The Big Bang Theory and Two and a Half Men?
Because those are terrible shows with absurdly high ratings.
Except, of course....NEWMAN.
It suffers as most shows do from having been on the air so long - each character moves gradually toward a caricature of what it originally was.
There have been plenty of good shows where the characters really never changed at all (I loved Newsradio, but those people were the same at the end of Season 5 as they were at the start of Season 1).
and it personally colors my perception about people in New York, if this is representative of even a handful of people there, then it's a place for the lowest dregs of humanity to occupy.
What's my point here... oh yeah. I think with younger characters I expect to see some changes, because that's what I'd expect out of a regular 20-something. You're not the same person at 29 that you were at 22, at least for most people. I want to see that growth and not just someone being the same year after year. In that way, Seinfeld didn't bother me - these were adults in their 30s at least, and in their 40s when the show ended. I can see some stability there. But with kids in their 20s, I think as a writer you have more leeway to let them run in different directions instead of just making a character and never wavering from it. You can get funny shows with adults who are set in their ways and won't ever change (All in the Family, or Barney Miller, or dozens of others). But I think you miss something if they're younger and not evolving. (And then you get shows where the adults evolve, and that can be something really terrific - look at Sam Malone in Cheers. What a great character, and a guy who changed starting in his mid-30s.)
yea you probably should get help for this. Actually, it's people like you that scare NYCers from ever moving. People that think the version of NYC you see on tv is real.
Canker Soriano already addressed this, but I have no idea how Community got lumped in there. Community's characters are fundamentally good but flawed, like most Human Beings are.
who, from what I understand hooks up with the lawyer in future seasons...EWWW.
I mean how can anyone not love Puddy, when he flexes his muscles to a befuddled Elaine, shows off his leather jacket with a giant 8-ball on the back, and says in dead seriousness, "You got a question? Just ask the 8-ball!" You can't make up characters like that, but somehow Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld managed to do it nearly every week.
It was a "happy" ending of sorts, but happy/sadistic, not happy/mushy. That was what made Seinfeld and Curb the greatest sitcoms ever: The complete lack of phony "closure" BS. Even the finale (which I loved) held true to that.
My favorite Curb meme is Larry's sometimes relationship with Wanda Sykes. That episode where she hectors him with "That's right, Larry! Blame it on the BLACK man!" still cracks me up every time I think of it. That series is so goddam good that I actually (Ray would appreciate this) broke down and BOUGHT all eight seasons. I almost felt I'd violated some unwritten moral code by doing so, but then we don't get HBO so what could I do?
Out of curiosity, does the name Lloyd Rose mean anything to you? She (not he) used to be one of my favorite book shop customers, and at one point she told me that she was involved with the writing of that show, which I've never seen.
Wait, how is Seinfeld even remotely connected to the "real world"?
Bought the whole "Dallas" for fun...it's better before Jock dies and it's better after Jock dies......Victoria/Pam....Holly Harwood was interesting in her own way too !
Out of curiosity, does the name Lloyd Rose mean anything to you?
And the line about not encouraging the behavior does matte
We had a group of young Americans living and working together in the company I was at. We partied pretty hard on the weekends, managed to get up to play softball or flag football some times, and partied some more. Mixed in some monopoly or risk overnight marathons in between. Everybody would finally break for home around 8 on Sunday night, go watch Dallas, religiously, and on Monday morning talk about the episodes and what a badass JR was. He was our hero. And it was all we had. Well that and the VHS/Beta Max tapes of bootleg movies.
She's never written for the actual show
I think Dallas was widely considered to be one of the first "water cooler" tv show.
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