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Despite growing calls for his demotion, Davis won’t be sent down to Triple-A before Friday’s series opener against the Braves, according to the New York Daily News.

“Maybe after the weekend,” a source told the paper.

It’s been a frustrating season for Davis, batting .147 with nine RBIs after getting off to a miserable start last year, too.

“I know I’m going to play better, especially hitting-wise. I can’t do any worse,” he said. “If ...

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1. Swedish Chef posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If they are playing by the Red Sox playbook a trade should be imminent.

2. Random Transaction Generator posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It sounds like someone has a grainy photocopy of the Red Sox management playbook.

Edit: Damn it! Bubbly refreshment to the Chef.

3. Matt Waters posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Mets are so bizarre.

4. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

R.A. Dickey. I liked him before he sold out.

5. asinwreck posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Mets management is wishing they could dig up the corpse of Dick Young to help them assassinate the character of the team's best pitcher.

6. SM posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:33 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

R.A. Dickey was good at first, but then he went too far

7. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Mets fans in my office are seeing right through this ploy by the Mets. I think attacking Dickey may backfire on them.

The Mets already were annoyed, The Post has learned, Dickey last week turned down a personal appearance request from owner Fred Wilpon.

I love this, too. The Wilpons are just so, so...yech.

8. Tuque

posted on December 12, 2012 at 04:58 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It seems to me like, on the list of all the players in baseball who you do not want to start a PR war with, Dickey has to be #1 right now.

He's well-informed, well-spoken and universally popular, and he is reportedly asking for an extremely reasonable contract. He is the opposite of Manny Ramirez.

9. Steve Treder posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

He's well-informed, well-spoken and universally popular, and he is reportedly asking for an extremely reasonable contract. He is the opposite of Manny Ramirez.

Plus, his story, the long and difficult road he endured before finally achieving his great success, is compelling as hell. He's the furthest thing from a spoiled brat superstar.

10. bookbook posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

May I have Dickey for my team, please? Clearly, the Mets are so rich in pitching that they don't need him.

11. DA Baracus is gritty and hits with RISP posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Dickey last week turned down a personal appearance request from owner Fred Wilpon.

The Mets say that like it's a bad thing.

12. Benji posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

They never stop, but like previous posts indicate, this time it will backfire badly. Dickey is a transcending figure, a guy even Yankee and Phillie fans gave props to. Personally I almost hope they get away with not paying him, because it could signal the beginning of the end of the entire regime.

13. depletion posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I understand Dickey's wife is upset that Nolan Ryan makes so much money. Next book title: "Wherever I wind up, as long as it isn't taking checks signed Wilpon."
coke to asinwreck.

14. depletion posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

#6 is brilliant.

15. Lassus posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:31 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This is really becoming difficult to believe. Unbelievable and unfathomable in the most literal sense.

16. JE (Jason Epstein)

posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

How does RA's contract drama compare to what happened with Jeter?

EDIT: And yes, #6 is brilliant ... and awesome.

17. Dale Sams posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If they are playing by the Red Sox playbook a trade should be imminent.

SPeaking of which..Sox should be all over this. Make it happen!...without giving into the Mets extravagent demands of course.

18. Bitter Mouse is a genre addict posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Twins will gladly welcome him back (well I will anyway). And we need pitching in the worst way.

19. Into the Void posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:53 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

You can tell he's become totally self-absorbed and obsessed with his celebrity by that appearance he made at the children's hospital for Hurricane Sandy victims. Where does he get off?

20. PreservedFish posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:55 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Do you think that there's some chance that the Mets are acting in a reasonable manner, based on some info we don't have? Or is this just exactly the train wreck it appears to be?

21. thetailor posted on December 12, 2012 at 05:58 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I am beginning to actually hate this ownership group. Like, legitimately, as people. The worst part is how absolutely powerless the fan base is to get rid of the Wilpons. Selig will prop them up forever, and Fred would do anything to make sure that Jeff takes over. They can't be toppled, and they get worse and worse.

Like #15 said, it's unbelievable and unfathomable.

22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Do you think that there's some chance that the Mets are acting in a reasonable manner, based on some info we don't have? Or is this just exactly the train wreck it appears to be?

No, the Wilpons are just total scum.

I hate them, and I dislike the Mets.

23. Conor posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:03 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I think you can defend them not signing Dickey yet, as they seem to be exploring the market for him, realizing that he might be their best chance to acquire some hitting talent.

Taking these shots at him in the press is pretty bush league though. Seems like it has Jeff Wilpon written all over it, no?

24. 'Spos posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Do you think that there's some chance that the Mets are acting in a reasonable manner, based on some info we don't have? Or is this just exactly the train wreck it appears to be?

Yes, and there's also a chance that the Marlins will relocate to Montréal.

25. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Dickey vs. dicks.

26. RJ in TO posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:12 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Like #15 said, it's unbelievable and unfathomable.

Since when is the Mets doing something incredibly dumb unbelievable and unfathomable?

27. TerpNats posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Mike Rizzo peruses his roster for equivalents to Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn, Steve Henderson and Dan Norman.

28. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Mike Rizzo peruses his roster for equivalents to Pat Zachry, Doug Flynn, Steve Henderson and Dan Norman.

Nah, the Mets won't trade in division. He should get Arizona involved too. He can probably get Upton and Dickey for three C+ prospects and some pocket lint.

29. cardsfanboy

posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Yes, and there's also a chance that the Marlins will relocate to Montréal.

Best response to that question.

30. Lassus posted on December 12, 2012 at 06:32 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Since when is the Mets doing something incredibly dumb unbelievable and unfathomable?

Don't make me talk about your commute into hell.

31. SoSHially Unacceptable posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

You can tell he's become totally self-absorbed and obsessed with his celebrity by that appearance he made at the children's hospital for Hurricane Sandy victims. Where does he get off?

It never ends with this guy. My son's SI arrived today, and who's on the cover but RA Dickey, out there seeking publicity once again for himself (and his history of childhood sexual abuse and his willingness to step forward and talk about it).

32. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:29 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Dickey's gone.

When have the Wilpons every crapped on a player, then signed/extended him?

This is really becoming difficult to believe. Unbelievable and unfathomable in the most literal sense.

Sad to say, it's very believable and very, er, fathomable.

21. thetailor Posted: December 12, 2012 at 05:58 PM (#4323400)
I am beginning to actually hate this ownership group. Like, legitimately, as people. The worst part is how absolutely powerless the fan base is to get rid of the Wilpons. Selig will prop them up forever, and Fred would do anything to make sure that Jeff takes over. They can't be toppled, and they get worse and worse.

This demands the question, "Beginning?"

It never ends with this guy. My son's SI arrived today, and who's on the cover but RA Dickey, out there seeking publicity once again for himself (and his history of childhood sexual abuse and his willingness to step forward and talk about it).

What a shameless poser!

33. smileyy posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

[31] He only got molested for the publicity.

34. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:39 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It never ends with this guy. My son's SI arrived today, and who's on the cover but RA Dickey, out there seeking publicity once again for himself (and his history of childhood sexual abuse and his willingness to step forward and talk about it).

Yeah, but obviously Dickey is in danger of letting the child molestation "go to his head."

Seriously, you guys might think I'm just a Nats fan enjoying the clusterfark, but I'm not, not really. As I said earlier, I've been a Dickey fan since his days with the Mariners (when he still wasn't all that great...but showed occasional flashes of the greatness he would later harness consistently). I'm authentically galled by this bullshit. Mets don't want to extend Dickey at extremely reasonable terms? Sure, fine, okay -- that's as dumb in its own way as anything Dayton Moore or Kevin Towers have done recently, but it's not an offense against decency. THIS though, this asinine attempt at trying to run his character down, this John Henry-style crap...this is disgusting. (It would be bad enough if Dickey were asking for unreasonably high contract -- hey, why should that affect his character? -- but it moves into the realm of "outrageous" given that he's actually offering damn generous terms.)

Friggin' Wilpons.

35. PreservedFish posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:41 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

32 - they very publicly crapped on Wright a year before signing him.

36. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:45 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

@35--did they? I'll take your word for it though I don't remember, and seize the opportunity to feel very slightly better.

37. bunyon posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:46 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm on record as saying I expect decline and that pretty quick. But, yeah, the hand wringing negotiation and media crapping. Don't want to sign him? There is a good case to be made. Tell him you aren't interested right now but love having him around. Tell the press you love having him around.

Why ever crap on a player? Even one who isn't a seemingly great guy with an obviously great story? What does it gain a team? I know there is supposed to be a PR boost when/if you get rid of him but anyone over the age of 7 today knows that's the game. All it seems to do is make the ownership/management look bad.

38. PreservedFish posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:49 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wilp

39. cardsfanboy

posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Why ever crap on a player? Even one who isn't a seemingly great guy with an obviously great story? What does it gain a team? I know there is supposed to be a PR boost when/if you get rid of him but anyone over the age of 7 today knows that's the game. All it seems to do is make the ownership/management look bad.

And couldn't that PR boost actually hurt you with getting players back?(assuming the other GM's are as gullible as what you think the common people are?)

I agree with the point, after all as a Cardinal fans, I've seen plenty of players who we have traded or let go, return to the team as either players, coaches, announcing or managers. There is something to say about maintaining good spirits with all of your employees.

40. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' posted on December 12, 2012 at 07:56 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I agree with the point, after all as a Cardinal fans, I've seen plenty of players who we have traded or let go, return to the team as either players, coaches, announcing or managers. There is something to say about maintaining good spirits with all of your employees.

Wrong sport, of course, but the best recent model of how to do this is the way the Indianapolis Colts handled the release of Peyton Manning during the off-season. The team owner actually made a joint appearance with Manning at a press conference and explained that, although they loved him and were endlessly grateful for all he'd done for the franchise over the years, they just couldn't take the risk of his salary given the severity of his injuries. (Well, that and having Andrew Luck queued up as a draft pick...) THAT is how you handle letting go of a popular player.

41. PreservedFish posted on December 12, 2012 at 08:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wilpon dissed Wright to the New Yorker. He dissed Reyes and Beltran worse, though.

42. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle posted on December 12, 2012 at 08:09 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I agree with the point, after all as a Cardinal fans, I've seen plenty of players who we have traded or let go, return to the team as either players, coaches, announcing or managers. There is something to say about maintaining good spirits with all of your employees.

Yup. Dickey seems to like NY, so it makes sense to bring him back as a roving instructor when his career ends.

43. cardsfanboy

posted on December 12, 2012 at 08:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Yup. Dickey seems to like NY, so it makes sense to bring him back as a roving instructor when his career ends.

Kind of what I was thinking, this is a guy who reinvented himself to stick to the majors, this is EXACTLY the guy you want as a coach in your minor leagues.

44. Der_K posted on December 12, 2012 at 09:05 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Knuckleballers seem to turn into pitching coaches - nature of the work, I guess.

45. adenzeno posted on December 12, 2012 at 09:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I cannot begin to fathom the stupidity of the Mets, and I am Mets fan since 1969.....HOW can you not pay the man...he is a knuckleballer..if he loses a few MPH on the pitch he still has a good knuckleball......THIS is the same organization that gave LUIS CASTILLO a 4 year deal, signed OLIVER PEREZ to some idiotic contract and is STILL paying BOBBY BONILLA......Christ almighty WILPONS, pull your heads out of each others butts and WAKE UP... You are on the verge of losing ANY fans you have left...you think $$$ are tight now? Wait until less than a million people come to watch in your crappy park..you will sell a lot of tickets due to corporate buying of season tickets, but no one will show up to the games....The WILPONS are an embarrassment to baseball and people who care about doing things well....

46. Bob Tufts posted on December 12, 2012 at 09:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Dickey last week turned down a personal appearance request from owner Fred Wilpon

If Fred Wilpon had only turned down that personal appearance request for lunch with Bernie Madoff, we wouldn't be discussing the need to lowball RA Dickey.

47. John Northey posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:21 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Heh. Just looked up Bonilla's contract status and found this article. The Mets are paying Bonilla $1.19 million a year from 2011 to 2035, and $250k a year to Bret Saberhagen from 2004 to 2028. ::shakes head:: Nice for those two guys that's for sure. The Mets could've avoided Bonilla's deal by paying him $5.9 million back in 2000.

48. Lassus posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Nice for those two guys that's for sure.

Isn't that money a lot less valuable in the future than it is now? -shrug- I never understood why this was so horrible for the Mets, but I admit I'm nothing close to an economist.

49. Walt Davis posted on December 12, 2012 at 11:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

You know who else is "too absorbed" with Dickey's celbrity? His fans. As I understand it, this group overlaps significantly with the group known as Mets' fans.* The owners of the Mets might want to take this into consideration.

* Unfortunate but we can't really blame Dickey for this.

50. PreservedFish posted on December 13, 2012 at 12:14 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The Bonilla deal was a direct consequence of the Madoff association. Wilpon paid Bonilla an extremely generous level of interest because he was confident that his other investments would beat that rate. He was astoundingly wrong.

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