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Rule V picks shouldn't make Top 10's. Just sayin'...
I'm pretty sure Flaherty was in the Cubs top 10.
Maybe we should give the Rays a bit more credit than saying "well they always draft high!"
This is a little off-topic, but what should the O's rotation be in 2012? I was thinking about this last night - it's a bit of a mess.
(although I suspect it's really more a function of development than drafting)
They've got Guthrie, Chen and Wada now and Simon has probably earned the 4th spot.
So this Chen is not Bruce Chen?
Dan has Chen @ 10-10 4.44, ERA+ of 96.
When did he sign?
There's no question that the orioles have done a lousy job in the draft (although I suspect it's really more a function of development than drafting), but they've never had the 1st or 2nd pick, and only had the 3rd pick once. THe Rays have had the #1 pick four times. It's far too simplistic to say "well the Rays always draft high," but it's not irrelevant.
The Rays chose not to protect him on the 40-man and no doubt regret that decision.
2000 14 Orioles Beau Hale (minors) RHP 2000 32 Orioles *Tripper Johnson (minors) RHP 2001 7 Orioles Chris Smith (minors) LHP 2001 31 Orioles *Bryan Bass (minors) SS 2002 4 Orioles Adam Loewen (minors) LHP 0.82003 7 Orioles Nick Markakis (minors) OF 19.72004 8 Orioles Wade Townsend (minors) RHP 2005 13 Orioles Brandon Snyder (minors) C 02006 32 Orioles *Pedro Beato (minors) RHP -0.32006 9 Orioles Billy Rowell (minors) 3B 2007 5 Orioles Matt Wieters (minors) C 7.52008 4 Orioles Brian Matusz (minors) LHP 1.22009 5 Orioles Matthew Hobgood (minors) RHP 2010 3 Orioles Manny Machado (minors) SS 2011 4 Orioles Dylan Bundy (minors) RHP
2000 36 Mets *Bobby Keppel (minors) RHP 02001 38 Mets *David Wright (minors) 3B 32.62002 15 Mets Scott Kazmir (minors) LHP 16.72003 12 Mets Lastings Milledge (minors) OF -22004 3 Mets Philip Humber (minors) RHP 3.22005 9 Mets Mike Pelfrey (minors) RHP 4.52008 22 Mets Reese Havens (minors) SS 2008 33 Mets Bradley Holt (minors) RHP 2010 7 Mets Matt Harvey (minors) RHP 2011 13 Mets Brandon Nimmo (minors) OF
It is interesting that few of the Orioles signees have ever made it to the majors with other teams; which may indicate that they were not good picks more than they were not developed well. There have been a lot of failed and injured pitchers although the parent club seems quite rigid about low pitch counts for starters in the system.
On the other hand, how are the Orioles draft choices much different than anyone else's? The day after the draft I imagine that the O's picks look much like any other teams' selections - some good ,others reaches, many unknowns.
It is probably fair to fault the team for not doing enough work with foreign born players but what exactly needs to be corrected with the drafting process and player development? Must be a better answer than Peter Angelos is evil incarnate?
Yes it helps to have the #1 pick, but it helps a lot more to turn a bust of a #1 pick into 2 valuable players. And the latter has nothing to do with draft position.
what exactly needs to be corrected with the drafting process and player development?
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