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someone defined by his help, not by his talent
I only mention this because Ray Lewis was also implicated in the exact same steroids investigation as A-Rod and very few sports writers/publications (with some notable exceptions) seem to have noticed the different treatment.
I don't care. Why does anyone care.
I actually feel sad for people whose thought process is so warped that they would still think negatively of a player for using PEDs
This really is the nut of the matter for you, isn't it?
I don't care. Why does anyone care.
Amen brother. There are penalties against it. There is education regarding it. Why do we need to belabor this? Yes, these people are the most horrible terrible worstest worsts that ever worsted. What would happen if baseball media had to write and discuss y'know, baseball?
I don't understand why anyone still cares about this, on any level. The sport will never be rid of PEDs
Should I pretend the wash of bad anti-steroids arguments I've seen over the years didn't happen, aren't still happening? What about the vitriol directed at players for doing something so many of their peers were doing? What about - I'll use the same level of silliness - the celebration of the conduct by a naturally huge player - Thomas - who had nothing to lose by trying to prevent people not born with his natural size from playing on a level field with him?
If I _did_ care about the character clause, I would not support him for the HOF, using arguments similar in silliness to the arguments we see against Sosa and McGwire and Clemens et al.
What about the fact that even now, after all this time, it can't be shown that steroids significantly impact baseball performance? What about people ignoring the inconvenient fact that the known users are all over the map, from good players to bad to old players to young to durable players to injury prone to pitchers to hitters to speed players to power players to players who saw a significant jump in performance to players who didn't see one. From players who burnt out early to players who played until they were 40.
They also believe HGH improves performance although studies say otherwise. Some of them also believe that metal bracelets or magnets or St John's Wort or eating chicken have benefits.
"Would you be at all surprised if Jeter was found to have used PEDs?"
I solicit answers from anyone who desires to answer.
No player especially loved by the media has been announced, and I doubt one will be. Obviously I wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised to find out that he had used, if I were granted omniscient knowledge of all baseball players' activities.
I saw somebody had put 3 framed Alex Rodriguez posters outside with the trash
No player especially loved by the media has been announced, and I doubt one will be.
I saw somebody had put 3 framed Alex Rodriguez posters outside with the trash.
...it is a terribly sad story. It is sad because the scouts who watched him play in high school will tell you they never saw a better, more complete player at that age. He needed no help. And now he stands as someone defined by his help, not by his talent.
No player especially loved by the media has been announced, and I doubt one will be
All this time later there is this idea that the government should somehow just look the other way on drug cheats in sports because they couldn’t pin the perjury rap on Clemens that Clemens deserved. But the feds cannot allow Rodriguez to make this just his word against Bosch’s, make this a wretched war fought in A-Rod’s behalf by handlers and crisis managers and spin doctors.
If baseball is going to continue to clean up its sport, something it has done mightily over the last decade, the government has to continue to go after Bosch and his clinic and his “patients.” The government has subpoena power. Major League Baseball certainly does not.
You may be one of those who didn’t care what Armstrong was taking, doesn’t care if Bonds or Clemens were juiced to the gills. You may be one of those, like Armstrong’s enablers, who fall back now on the defense that Everybody Was Doing It. But if you believe these guys are cheats, if you are one who believes that what the juicers have done is a form of athletic fraud, then you should want the government to get to the bottom of this with Rodriguez and everybody else.
Maybe in the end the truth about Rodriguez is that he was juicing from the time he was a kid. It would mean that the real lie isn’t the stories coming out about him now. The real lie would be Alex Rodriguez himself.
Why would we assume at this point that ARod wasn't using in high school? Seems quite plausible, if not likely, that he was.
I don't understand why anyone still cares about this, on any level. The sport will never be rid of PEDs - indeed, in time there is a great chance that PEDs will be legal again and accepted; see the change in the laws against same-sex marriage or inter-racial marriage -- and nobody has any clue which players who have been anointed 'clean' are actually clean.
I actually feel sad for people whose thought process is so warped that they would still think negatively of a player for using PEDs, or, even worse, would think that they have the faintest notion which players presumed clean are actually clean.
We have had testing for a decade, and now get hit with this 'bombshell.'
Sports aren't about risking your health to win
Meanwhile, did they ever catch the Tylenol tamperer who's responsible for everything having 39 seals on it?
I may be showing my age, but everyone saluted Kerri Strug for winning a gold medal while risking the long term health of her ankle.
But now, with this story, the franchise and its 2009 championship are smeared by Rodriguez’s connection to PEDs.
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