Boz pays homage to the gritty, gutsy, scrappy, first place 2013 underdog Yankees:
Read More...Perhaps for the first time in their history, the Yankees now epitomize exactly the kind of team that always used to try to beat them: a group of inspired-by-adversity, too-old-or-too-young, one-last-chance players who band together to prove that baseball is a team game, not just an aggregation of talent and fat contracts.
Put a few all-star seasons, such as Cano’s 31 RBI, Kiroda’s 1.99 ERA and Rivera’s 16 ...
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1 2 >But this was still a good off day for the Os. A strong series against Boston is needed to give them some breathing room and keep the pressure on the yanks.
1) The A's sweep Seattle and Texas takes two of three from the Angels to finish them off.
2) A's sweep the Rangers to force a one-game playoff for the division.
3) Yankees finish 4-2 in their last six.
A's could then get home-field advantage by winning Game 163 on the basis of the divisional tiebreaker.
1) A's lose 2 of 3 from Seattle and sweep Texas -- 92-70
2) Angels sweep Seattle and Texas -- 92-70
3) Rangers lose all games -- 92-70
4) Rays sweep White Sox and Orioles -- 92-70
5) Orioles sweep Red Sox and lose 3 to Rays -- 92-70
6) Yankees go 2-4 against Blue Jays and Red Sox -- 92-70
7) White Sox lose 3 to Rays and sweep Indians -- 85-77
8) Tigers go 1-5 against Twins and Royals -- 85-77
9) Hilarity!
Madness....
The Os have drawn pretty good pitching matchups the rest of the way (they should miss Lester, Price, and Moore). It's not likely at this point, but if the Os do well against the Red Sox and the Rays struggle against a desparate White Sox team, the Rays could be eliminated by Monday and start playing out the string.
The Jays have been playing tough the last week and you know the Red Sox aren't going to lie down for the Yanks in the final series.
It should be a wild a crazy 6 days, and I like the Os chances to take the division.
Maybe, but if Price starts Sunday, he's set up to start the wild card game on Friday on regular rest. I could see Maddon using Price for an inning or two in lieu of a side session, but pitching him any longer than that would be robbing Peter to pay Paul.
But that's because there were fewer spots, right? It's never been unusual to have a race go to the final series. What's unusual is that nobody's clinched fourth place (effectively) in a 14-team league.
Yeah but if the Rays are in a must win situation on Wednesday there are worse things than having a guy like Price available for a couple of innings of relief. Obviously if it's not a must win then Maddon wouldn't do it but my theory is it's a situation where the Rays need to win to stay alive.
I think the Yankees are probably about 75% favorites to win the division at this point.
I’ve been projecting the remaining schedule using live betting odds for today’s games, and a guesstimate of true talent log5 for the rest (I have TEX as a .575 team; BAL/ CWS/LAA/NYY/OAK/TBR/DET as .550 teams; BOS/SEA as .450 teams, and TOR as a .425 team).
The probabilities I have are:
Os win East outright 14%
Yanks-Os Tie 18%
Yanks win East outright 68%
At this point, the odds can change quickly. With an Os win and Yanks loss tonight (both are 2-1 favorites to win), I have the following probabilities:
Os win East outright 30%
Yanks-Os Tie 23%
Yanks win East outright 47%
If the opposite happens, and the Yanks take a 2 game lead tonight, then they have some breathing room:
Os win East outright 3%
Yanks-Os Tie 9%
Yanks win East outright 88%
As noted, not one AL playoff spot would be clinched yet with the old playoff format either. And all of the same teams would still be in contention.
I'm not sure how unusual that really is. It's just always been irrelevant before, so we haven't paid much attention. But I bet if we were to peruse the standings from the pre-wild card era we'd find a lot of 3rd and 4th place ties.
I'm trying to work out what happens in this situation. If they stiffly follow set procedures:
1. There are a series of coin flips in the AL East & AL West, so there are 1-game playoffs between 2 teams, then the next day the 3rd team plays at the winner of the 1st game. IOW, maybe Texas at LAA, then Oakland at the winner. The winners of these second games win the divisions. I hate this setup, but that's what MLB has said they'd use in the past.
2. Then there are coin flips with the 4 losing teams to set up two games, the winners go on to the one game wildcard game against each other.
3. Then the ALDS starts.
We can imagine a path in which LAA finishes the regular season in Seattle, wins the next day in Texas, loses the next day in Anaheim (to lose the AL West), then wins the next day in Tampa to win the wildcard spot, wins the wildcard game in Anaheim, then opens the ALDS in New York or Baltimore. So that schedule would be:
Sunday -- Seattle (regular season)
Monday -- Fort Worth (division playoff 1)
Tuesday -- Anaheim (division playoff 2)
Wednesday -- St Petersburg (wildcard playoff)
Thursday -- Anaheim (wildcard game)
Friday -- Baltimore (ALDS)
Realistically, Bud should just invite everyone to Milwaukee and have a big cage match.
I've thought the same thing but haven't had time to look into it. The further you push playoff spots toward 81, the more bunching you should expect. The oddness in having NO teams clinched is that there isn't just one blowout division. But having 3rd, 4th and 5th place unsettled with a week to go is probably more the norm than the exception.
Obviously there have been past seasons with a very close grouping of teams (four clubs within two games after 156 in the 1967 AL, for instance, just the most famous of them), and there have probably been closely-bunched leagues even in the past few years which are less memorable, but it does seem a little that there are no Xs or Ys at all by the AL teams in the standings this morning.
Given how much better they are and their recent dominance in interleague play I would have expected that number to be a little higher than that. I suppose it largely speaks to just how incredibly well-balanced and tough from top to bottom the A.L. is this year. The west in particular turned out to be a lot tougher than what I had expected early on.
Given how much better they are and their recent dominance in interleague play I would have expected that number to be a little higher than that. I suppose it largely speaks to just how incredibly well-balanced and tough from top to bottom the A.L. is this year. The west in particular turned out to be a lot tougher than what I had expected early on.
Yeah, even the bad teams aren't dreadful like the Astros, Cubs, and Rockies.
No predictions about who wins the games, but here's my prediction for the Camden Yards crowd over the weeken:
70% Orioles fans rooting for the home team
15% Yankee fans rooting for the Red Sox
15% Red Sox fans rooting for the Orioles
That's written tongue in cheek, but there's actually a fair amount of logic behind it. I love this ####.
This number is way too high. Red Sox fans don't want to see their sorry team.
This number is way too high. Red Sox fans don't want to see their sorry team.
You're probably right, and anyway, I always figured that their "hatred" for the Yankees was highly overrated.
Can we, please? Royal Rumble (do they still call it that?) for the AL Pennant? I gotta say, I think the A's win hands down if that's the case...those guys already look like they could be in the WWE....Reddick, Gomes, Norris...where can I buy tickets!?!?!?
I'd be ok with a Survivor Series-style match too.
Assuming a sell-out crowd or close to it (which seems safe given the rush of new life that has come to Charm City's baseball fans), that means you think there will be roughly....
32,180 Orioles Fans
6,896 Yankee Fans
6,896 Red Sox Fans
I highly doubt all figures except the first. Of course, you were being tongue in cheek. I'm guessing that there will be closer to 0.15% Red Sox Fans at the game... or about 68. Tops. And most of them probably got tickets at the start of the year thinking they might have a chance of seeing the team clinch a playoff spot.
Not by anyone I'd call a Sox fan.
Last weekend the cameras seemed to pick up a good number of Oriole fans in Fenway. Amazing what a winning season will do.
Nah. I'd much rather see the Orioles win the division than the Yankees, and as such will be rooting for them against the Red Sox this weekend, and then the Red Sox against the Yankees after that. Because #### the Yankees.
OK, I did kind of miss your point. Or part of it at least. But I still think it isn't as rare as we might guess. Just look for pre-division seasons where the pennant winner was around 92-94 wins and I bet you'll find more than a handful.
I'm sure it's sincere enough in actual meaningful games. Last season in game 162 I was sitting in the section behind the Red Sox dugout, so plenty of Red Sox fans in attendance. The majority seemed to overcome their Yankee hatred enough to root for them over Tampa Bay.
In this case though, does Yankee hate trump an opportunity for revenge? These Orioles are the ones who knocked the Red Sox out of the 2011 playoffs and celebrated the end of a last place season like they had just won the world series. If I were a Red Sox fan (a huuuge stretch for me, so I could be way off base) I'd be hoping to beat the Orioles this weekend to set up a do or die at Tampa Bay, and hope that Chris Davis and Robert Andino get to see a Longoria walkoff up close and personal.
Asolutely not. Nothing trumps Yankee hate. Go O's.
Frankly, I hope those Sox fans who rooted for the Yanks in Game 162 are appropriately remorseful for their sins.
Welcome back, Gary Thorne.
The Toronto team credited Swisher more than it blamed Lawrie, and IMO that take reflected reality more than Kay's and Leiter's. Lawrie only made one tiny step towards third before he reversed himself, but Swisher and Jeter sprung into action almost immediately in what looked like a terrific heads up play on their part.
It's fantastic to see Kuroda looking so vulnerable, and I feel pretty good about the chances of Pettitte's pixie dust wearing off any day now. Hopefully that's tomorrow.
If the White Sox hang on here, that takes destiny out of the Rays hands. I think I'll start rooting for the As to win - their wins would help eliminate the Rays earlier, and I'd like that to happen as soon as possible before they face the Os.
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