Well, at least he didn’t call him Hatchet-Face.
Read More...Bautista looked at strike one, tried to check his swing but couldn’t on strike two then swung at strike 3 in the dirt. After he swung at strike three he had a few choice words for the home plate umpire. He then tossed his bat, helmet and elbow pad on the field in protest before leaving.
Once Bautista was thrown out, Grieve had this to say…
“You turn into a cry baby when you act like that. Go sit down and look at the pitch and then apologize to ...
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1. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong posted on March 10, 2013 at 10:22 AM # hit 0 | hit 0Lance Berkman is a great hitter; the key things to remember about him are the "semi-healthy" qualification and the fact that he's 37. There's a non-zero chance he'll have a better 2013 than Hamilton, but I wouldn't bet on it. There's a substantial chance Berkman will miss 100 games and hit .250 with only occasional power. He's basically one last roll of the dice.
Berkman, 7500 PA, 296/409/544, 146 OPS+
Edgar, 8700 PA, 312/418/515, 147 OPS+
If Berkman can squeeze two more full years out without much decline, he's right there.
Which brings us back to your DH penalty test.
Berkman 49 WAR, -11 dWAR
Edgar 64 WAR, -10 dWAR
Berkman is not particularly hurt by Rfield (-19) but he's still considered a worse "defender" than a guy who had to be taken out of the field after age 31.
Edgar is also getting a boost of about 4 wins from the league differential which bWAR thinks has been heavily in favor of the AL for 20 years. But most of the difference is in Rbat which I guess is the OBP difference.
Saying a guy's age 32-36 seasons are comparable to a guy's age 26-30 seasons is fine and all, but for the following season I'd have to bet pretty heavily on the 31-year old maintaining more of that hitting ability than the 37 year old.
I'm surprised the gap is so large between Lance and Edgar; after watching him abuse the Cardinals for all those years, then picking up the swan song in 2011, I'd have guessed Lance was the more valuable player. Losing last year really hurt, since he could have added on 4 WAR easily- he was in top form, looked great, did everything right, just got hurt.
Wonder if Lance is at all bitter about not being brought up earlier? He put up Pujolsian numbers in the minors (.307/.425/.546 over 1277 PA's, no single OPS under .937), and was probably ready for MLB at age 22, maybe 21, just no room on the 106-pythag astros that year. But just imagine how awesome that team would have been. And 1000-1500 PA's of .800ish OPS would have really padded his resume (he only got 106 PA's at age 23).
Anyway, fangraphs has it a bit closer, 60.1 for Lance and 69.9 for Edgar.
Sure, but then the headline says "could".
By today's standards, Hamilton has not been a free swinger but closer to average. Until last year when his K/PA skyrocketed to 25%. That might end up being a fluke but it can't possibly be a good sign. His walk rate also took a bit of a jump. Also a sizable jump in FB rate and HR/FB (50% jump!) He's gone old man on us already. My cunningly inaccurate crystal ball puts him on 260/330/510 (some of that is made-up park effect), a little better than 2012 Trumbo.
Hey, not bad, ZiPS puts him at 267/333/481. Nasty whack on the ISO.
Me too but Edgar does have about two full seasons of PAs on him and given these guys averaged about 5 WAR per 650 PA, most of the gap is that. But even a lot of that is pretty tangential stuff. Edgar is about 8 wins ahead on Rrep rather than 4 -- that's the presumed league difference. While Lance's defensive rating is not extreme, Edgar is rated as an above-average 3B when he did play so that's another 4 wins difference. (I have no particular reason to think either player is rated inaccurately, it's just that both of these guys are pure hitters and nobody cares much about their defense).
It is a comp that tests your faith in the fringes of WAR. Edgar with 560 starts of above-average fielding and 1450 games at DH provided as much defensive value as a guy with nearly 1700 starts of basically average fielding in a (mostly) corner? Edgar, by virtue of being in the AL picks up about 4 wins. Heck, Edgar comes out as a slightly better baserunner -- no, Lance is not a good baserunner but Edgar was pretty much under strict orders to jog between bases. :-)
So, yeah, if Lance puts up two more seasons like 2009 and 2011, you'd think he'd be a dead ringer for Edgar. But he'll still be about 8 wins behind -- league difference and dWAR. I don't think I buy it. Granted, that's maybe half a win per year which is mighty thin and can't be ruled out.
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