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Wednesday, June 19, 2013

Let’s Go Tribe: Tom Hamilton interview

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posted 6 hours ago by Repoz to indians, sabermetrics | 2 comment(s)

Tom Hamilton has the Best Home Run call in all of People Business.

LGT: There’s been a kind of evolution in statistical analysis and understanding of baseball. How much weight do you give to this broader statistical analysis?

TH: We get all the statistical information we need in advance of games. But I really think for my purposes, you have to be careful. You can number people to death. People will go numb if you use too many numbers. I know I do. If I hear a broadcast and they’re stuck on ...

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1. boteman posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:07 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm hoping to finish my essay on Batter-Independent Total Contribution to Hitting (B.I.T.C.H.) before the post-season begins. Stay tuned.

2. Liver of blaspheming 'zop posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:17 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

The "genius" of Cameron /
Leads to Hiroshima

3. GregD posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

I hope this is a helpful stat and am not in a position to judge that for myself. But I have to say the headline made me laugh out loud.

4. Honkie Kong posted on August 30, 2012 at 02:09 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Mark Prior refuses to have anything to do with this Fielding Dependent crap.

5. Obi One Kenobi Nil

posted on August 30, 2012 at 05:36 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Isn't there already a perfectly good measure of "Fielding Dependent Pitching" called "Runs Allowed".

6. Lassus posted on August 30, 2012 at 08:22 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Geez.

7. Tricky Dick posted on August 30, 2012 at 09:23 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Isn't there already a perfectly good measure of "Fielding Dependent Pitching" called "Runs Allowed".

That was my first reaction when I read the headline. But, after reading the article, and looking at the new stats on the value page for pitchers, it looks like an interesting idea. The purpose of the FDP is so that the components of the "fielding dependent" part of the stat can be deconstructed.

The FDP starts with a RA/9 based WAR. The new components are "balls in play" wins and "left on base" wins. Cameron shows this formula:

RA9= FIP+BIP+LOB

If you are interested in understanding why a pitcher's actual results depart from FIP, this provides more detailed information.

8. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on August 30, 2012 at 09:40 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

So, kind of a Dupont Analysis of pitching WAR? It's actually pretty cool.

9. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on August 30, 2012 at 11:23 AM # hit 0 | hit 0

Finally some ammunition for my "Barmes For MVP" campaign.

10. Obi One Kenobi Nil

posted on August 30, 2012 at 12:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That was my first reaction when I read the headline. But, after reading the article, and looking at the new stats on the value page for pitchers, it looks like an interesting idea. The purpose of the FDP is so that the components of the "fielding dependent" part of the stat can be deconstructed.

I've read the full article now and it is more interesting than the excerpt would lead you to believe. I still don't like the idea of all-encompassing super stats so the increased granularity of this is welcome particularly if you combine it with measures of team defense and GB/FB tendencies.

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Let’s Go Tribe: Tom Hamilton interview

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