I’m going to start using emanded. That is all.
Read More...I was surrounded in the clubhouse the other day, with no escape. Two players wanted—emanded—to know why there was even an MVP debate last year in the American League.
So technically, the great debate from 2012 rages on. Six months after the winner was announces, we are still talking about it.
These two players, like a seeming overwhelming majority of players, couldn’t understand why anyone supported Mike Trout in the apparently ongoing ...
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1. BDCFor many years, IIRC, that "team of mathematicians" was a husband and wife who did the whole schedule using paper and notecards at their kitchen table. I reckon computer algorithms help out now (there are several open-source scheduling programs on the Internet), but there has to be a lot of human proofing and tweaking.
I wonder if "green" factors like travel miles enter into MLB scheduling algorithms. Every year it seems that fans of some team complain about absurdly-planned road trips. Of course, North America is somewhat larger than Japan, and the Mariners will always travel more miles than the Yankees or Mets; but there are probably relatively fuel-effective ways of getting them there as long as everything's so complicated anyway.
Of course, the difference here is that computer scheduling makes the game better, while expanded replay makes it worse. Because nothing's more exciting than standing around twiddling your thumbs for five minutes while you wait to find out whether or not you won the game.
Other than that, though, your analogy is spot-on.
I don't know, reading the lamentations of Braves fans when the umpires screw them out of a post-season triumph is pretty damn exciting.
Yeah, and that might happen, damn, like twice per season! Because all 2,430 games all have exciting endings currently.
People already ##### about how baseball games are too long. The pace of the game is a legitimate concern for casual fans. Yet you want to introduce even more delays and interruptions! You might as well hire Steve Trachsel to handle replay reviews, and be done with it.
I'm sure it'll be great for the quality of play when the pitcher stands around on the mound getting cold, while an invisible replay official watches a fielder's glove go back and to the left, over and over.
I would off-set the time added by replay by forbidding managers from leaving the dugout to argue. Problem solved.
I would also enact a rule where if the play hasn't been decided in X, it is automatically ruled inconclusive and the ruling on the field stands.
Just because you can point out some flaw with something doesn't mean you should toss out the whole idea.
Losing a game that you won because the umpires are incompetent boobs is incomparably worse than a few short delays.
You're worried about time? Great. Enforce the 30-second pitch rule, which is already on the books. We'll cut a half hour off of game time even WITH instant replay.
No, but the flaws in this case are large enough that the thing as a whole isn't worth keeping. It's just bathwater - there's no baby there.
Managers arguing with the umpire is entertaining, and a part of the culture of the game. In practice, a time-limiting rule would be meaningless, just like the time-limiting rules that are already on the books, which are routinely ignored.
No, it's not. A great game that was unfairly stolen from you is still a great game, but replay-related delays degrade the entertainment value of every game they affect.
I do not think you understand what the word "specious" means.
If you don't like the job done by the current umpires, then the natural solution would be to train and hire better umpires. What makes you think that MLB will hire "something competent" to handle the video reviews, if the replay officials are going to be hired by the same people who hired the current "fat fools" who work as umpires?
That would be a great thing to do - but it has absolutely no connection to replay. MLB could do that, and reap the resultant benefit, without enacting a replay system.
So even if games were on average 40 minutes shorter than they are now, you would still imagine that replay would make games unbearably awful by making them on average 2 minutes longer than that.
So even if someone handed you $50,000, you'd still keep trying to acquire more money throughout your lifetime?
If replay as implemented actually makes games only two minutes longer, I'll eat my left foot. You might as well tell me that the magical cloud fairies will provide a tribunal of impartial unicorns to handle the replay reviews.
Seriously, pull the other one - it's got bells on it.
I could not possible disagree with you more strenuously than I do as I am typing these keys as hard as I can press.
If you honestly believe that watching fat managers slowly waddle to the mound and arguing for minutes before slowly waddling back is fun and worth keeping over getting calls right then we simply can't even have a conversation as we occupy entirely different realms of time-space.
Why do you hate fun? Did fun abuse you when you were a child? Did it kill your mother, or break up your parents' marriage? What's the deal?
Deep down in your shriveled heart, when you see an old fat guy in an ill-fitting uniform get down on his hands and knees and scoop dirt over home plate just so that the ump has to bend over and brush it off, don't you feel at least a few twinges of an unfamiliar emotion?
Neither computer umpiring nor replay would have reversed that particular call, though it was certainly awful.
Well, 1) I doubt manager arguing adds significantly to game time, and 2) manager arguing is rarely about getting the call correct, and usually about emotional venting and some sort of psychological gamesmanship. Replay won't stop either one of those.
You're nuts.
The losing team's fans hate it, and the winning team's fans get to hear about how it was a tainted win for the next, oh, 40 years.
And everyone that doesn't have a rooting interest in the game realize that it has been ruined because the proper result was altered by a mistake.
The only people who like it are those grey-haired fools who love to raise their cane and shout "Tradition!".
Maybe, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.
When there's a controversial ending to a game, that game is remembered and endlessly discussed and dissected forever. You really think the NFL would be better off if some endless replay review had overturned the Immaculate Reception?
Losing traditional rivalries is fun? Are you sure you really understand what "fun" is?
Only if the manager really lets loose. Otherwise, it's just two guys mumbling to each other for 20 seconds.
And when the manager goes for broke, then it's definitely a big time waster. You can't lose your #### in under a minute.
Yes.
Sorry, but I see fun in things that are different from how it's been done for the last 100 years.
Maybe 1 in 500 are, and only outside the context of the actual game.
You say "things that are different from how it's been done for the last 100 years", I say "August series against the Royals". Blecch.
Time spent on something that entertaining is never "wasted".
Ask Yankee fans if they're bothered by outcome of the Jeffrey Maier game. It was pretty terrible for Orioles fans for that moment in time, but baseball seems to have survived just fine.
They didn't do it when I was a kid.
End of argument.
What would be super fun...
For the 2013 season all players play for the nation (or in the case of Americans, state) in which they were born. Throw together the 64 best teams (maybe have some kind of play-in for the bottom-feeders), but them all in a massive bracket where advancement is decided by a best-of-13 game series.
Now that would be fun!
The umpiring system is baseball has been broken for a long time and is long overdue for the same fix that other sports have proven works effectively to prevent grand miscarriages of justice.
RTG is right: the only people who like it are grey-headed fools who like to raise their canes and shout "Tradition!"
And they like it because it's just so great to see teams robbed of wins and titles they have earned by blundering, inattentive fools who cannot be overruled, even though everyone who can see the scoreboard replay or has a TV is instantly aware that a giant, heart-breaking, unjust blunder has been made by baseball's bungling umpires...yet again.
No, because those make baseball more accessible to the fans, rather than less.
I'm all for changes that improve the accuracy of umpiring, as long as they don't make the game worse. Hire better umpires, or have MLB start an umpiring school and require umpires to pass it if they want to work ML games. Add a positioning sensor to the ball, and work on an automated ball-and-strike system. Christ, give the umpires Segways like mall cops if they're too fat or feeble to get into position to make the call. Anything that genuinely improves the quality of the game is fine with me. But please, for the love of God, don't ruin the pace of the action by throwing a bunch of stupid, pointless delays into the broadcast, simply in order to hand authority over game action to a slightly different group of "blundering, inattentive fools".
I love the way people seem to assume, for some reason, that having replay in place will eliminate blown calls. Haven't any of you ever seen a football game? Replay officials get #### wrong there all the time, and half the stuff that the on-field officials get wrong isn't reviewable. So you get games that are slow as #### and outcomes that are still unfair.
I bet the networks will love having all those extra commercial breaks in their broadcast, though.
Funny enough, given the nominal title of this thread, one of the "greener" things that baseball clubs could do is play more day games.
What is this thing you speak of.... football?
Yes. Yes, you are.
In general they want the demanding travel out of the way as early as possible.
IIRC the husband-and-wife scheduling team was "good" at two things: making sure there were intradivisional rivalry games to open and close the season; and a ton of near-home and home series (e.g. 7 games in 10 days against one club). With the new computer-assisted schedules, it seems a lot more randomized, fewer home and homes, and nothing gets overlooked except for the odd goof (Marlins game in the same time as U2 concert).
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