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2. It's not a talent, and Scherzer has pitched at least as well while pitching in front of an infield defense that would embarass most Little League teams
Though I note Darvish might be closer than Felix is.
The Mariners have the worst defense in baseball? Wow. That's quite a change.
I love how stat heads see Scherzer's record as a challenge. How can I vote against him? I must not reward wins!
As if reflexively trying to discredit wins is an improvement from blindly rewarding them.
Yeah, exactly. As Scherzer himself has noted numerous times, "wins" are (often) a misleading stat, but he hasn't Bob Welched (or ElRoy Faced) his way to 19 of them. He's pitched very, very well.
No body (at least, no one I've read or heard) is arguing that Scherzer is undeserving of the CYA.
FWIW, Dewan and UZR both have the Mariners as the worst defensive team in baseball,
This is kind of an awkward year for the "Kill the Win" movement.
I'd love to see a guy go 27-2 with a 110 ERA+, and win the MVP and Cy Young, just to enjoy the angst.
This makes it sound like wins are uncorrelated with being an excellent pitcher. The large majority of guys who win 18+ games are excellent pitchers, or at least are having excellent years.
The problem with the wins uber alles crowd, is that they have the causal arrow pointing the wrong way. Being an excellent pitcher makes getting a great W/L record easier. But a great W/L record does not automatically make you a great pitcher, nor does a poor W/L record make you a bad one.
What metric wouldn't this apply to?
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