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Over a period of ten years, Selig executed strategies that cost the industry more than $1.2 billion, that violated antitrust and labor law, that destroyed any working relationship with the MLBPA and that damaged baseball's standing with American sports fans.
I have little doubt that these steroid suspensions are straight union-busting, and an attempt to set a precedent by which teams can get out of big contracts in the way that NFL teams can. With any luck it'll be crushed by the craven and crass maneuver it is once it makes it to court.
And yet since then, we've had the longest period without a labor stoppage since the formation of the MLBPA, salaries for the players that have continued on an upward curve, and an industry that has continued to grow and prosper and make money for everyone involved.
Would the industry have grown to the extent that it has if we still had labor stoppages every 4-6 years? Unanswerable question, I know.
(*) With the proviso that we don't know exactly what A-Rod and MLB agreed to in the past in regards A-Rod's past transgressions.
i forgot another part - what he did with montreal and miami.
My judgement is out until we know exactly what A-Rod did or didn't do vis-a-vis Biogénesis (*)
Even if not, the Union would be fools to not have the wording of the JDA changed to rule out such blatant overreach in the future, when the CBA comes up next time. And if MLB balks at that, you can look forward to some new labor stoppages. The Union isn't going to let them run an end around on guaranteed contracts.
2. MLB seems to have some incredibly incendiary stuff on A-Rod (and they seemed to have had similar stuff against Braun).
They also realistically can't tolerate a system, where teams are incentivised to try and get their players busted for steroid use. Assuming for sake of argument, that MLB only has ARod on Bosch's notes and words, would an ARod defense along the lines of 'the Yankees framed me to get out of the contract' seem completely implausible?
We already know how badly they want out of the deal. We know how badly they want to get under the tax threshold next year. We've seen the public comments towards ARod during his comeback attempt. Maybe that doesn't reach a preponderance of the evidence threshold, but completely ruling it out? This is after all an organization that once hired a private detective to dig up dirt on a player to get his contract voided...
But 1994 was 19 years ago. Heck, not even Mariano was pitching at the time, and there's probably no institutional memory amongst today's players about that war.
And why do people willingly forget that ARod willingly moved to 3B despite being a far better shortstop than Jeter for the sake of the team?
It's the only thing that explains them freaking out whenever he says he is ready to play.
Did they, really, if he only got 65 games?
Either the evidence to support a lengthy/permanent suspension wasn't there or MLB didn't feel that their interpretation of the JDA (i.e., that they could get to a lengthy or permanent suspension when the player has not even been disciplined once yet) was so strong that an arbitrator wouldn't rule against them.
the people who have problems with him are jealous types who are upset at their lot in life
Anyway, the way it seems to me, although it's likely no one out the outside will ever really know, is that MLB had some stuff on Braun and much more stuff on AROD.
Players, regardless of what Sheehan believes, genuninely are pissed off at roiders. Look at the reaction against Ryan Braun.
I wish I were as sure as you that the union won't allow this to happen.
From every indication, and every next word out of Weiner's mouth, the union is in the midst of a complete surrender to the owners on this issue.
If Braun had kept his mouth shut, and not thrown the piss collector under the bus, I doubt we would be seeing the same reaction.
Are they pissed at him for taking steroids, or for his over-the-top, "look at how clean I am, and how they conspired against me" road show after he got off on a violation of storage/delivery procedures? If Braun had kept his mouth shut, and not thrown the piss collector under the bus, I doubt we would be seeing the same reaction.
Best. Discovery Proceedings. Ever.
I imagine a similar scenario unfolding for baseball.
I'm guessing a majority(?) of players currently on rosters would be too young to have any direct memory of 1994.
I think you're right that we'll never know about Braun, but we're going to get to hear everything they've got on Rodriguez if they do indeed ban him for life.
I posted this in another thread recently (although I used it to refute a point that wasn't being made. It's useful now).
The average MLB player is about 28.5 years old, making the average player 9 years old when the strike/lockout happened. So yeah, even if they remember it the vast majority certainly don't remember anything beyond "The World Series was cancelled!!!". If they know anything about the larger issues, or what the owners tried to do once the strike started, it's stuff they've read or heard about 2nd hand.
Even if not, the Union would be fools to not have the wording of the JDA changed to rule out such blatant overreach in the future, when the CBA comes up next time.
dlf (#40), does there exist a post-arbitration situation in which Rodriguez could sue MLB for damages?
Why do people think the MLBPA and MLB couldn't possibly be in agreement?
I believe the arbitrator's word here is final.
Man, I really hope Selig sends photoshopped pictures of A-Rod having sex with Madeline Albright to the NYDN.
As I've been saying, I think they are. At least for the bulk of the issues. Weiner said if a player has overwhelming evidence against him the union would look to settle those cases.
@54 - Thanks Mike. I should have remembered that it was the Supreme Court reversing the erroneous 9th Circuit decision. The case was modestly famous to law geeks two decades ago in that the Supreme Court virtually never reverses without argument, but did so here.
the arbitrator in the Garvey case was indeed loopy (and one can only speculate as to his motives in finding the way he did), ... Here in the real world, the decision the arbitrator reached (and the way he chose to handle the evidence of collusion) seems unfair and inequitable.
For context, this is a Twit Sheehan wrote this morning:
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