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Rk Player Rbat1 Mel Ott 612 Alex Rodriguez 583 Mike Trout 544 Ted Williams 545 Al Kaline 536 Mickey Mantle 427 Frank Robinson 398 Ty Cobb 399 Jason Heyward 3210 Vada Pinson 30
Mel Ott never really got better than his age 20 season. It took quite possibly steroids for ARod to equal and then surpass his age 20 season.
Pinson never came close to his offensive totals or value of his age 20 season.
Editor's note: 1938 was accepted as Pinson's birth date throughout his baseball career and appears in all the encyclopedias. Several recent publications asserted that he was born two years earlier. California's official record, at http://vitals.rootsweb.com/ca/death/search.cgi, gives his age as 57 at the time of his death in 1995. SABR member Kerry Keene says he spoke with Pinson in 1991, and Pinson gave his birth date as 1938. His tombstone, at www.findagrave.com, also says 1938.
Age 20 was Ted's rookie year. Mickey was coming off a horrible injury in the WS. Age 20 was Frank's rookie year. Ty got better. Heyward hasn't come close to duplicating his age 20 season. Pinson never improved upon his age 20 season. Out of the list there is about 5 guys who didn't really get better, 3 guys playing in their rookie season, a guy coming off an injury and 1 guy who like Al played several years before his age 20 season and subsequently got better after his age 20 season.
Where are you getting him as better than Kaline? They seem as close to a push as I can imagine
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A lot of people consider Clemente a better fielder due to his exceptional arm. He also had very good range, but I did not see enuf of Kaline to know how good his range factor was. I was under the impression that Kalines fielding declined some as he got older but I dont really know.
My perspective may have been a little skewed because I was a National League fan as a kid, and the leagues were far more separated then in terms of image and publicity depending on what city you lived in or team you followed. But I was from Chicago, not Pittsburgh, and Clemente still had very significant mystique.
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