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    posted on April 21, 2013 at 08:56 AM by Jim Furtado to cardinals, jurickson profar, rangers, trade rumors  |  37 comment(s)

    Somebody is going to get traded eventually. When you have surplus in one area and a shortage in another, it’s the only sensible thing to do.

    “I understand why people connect the shortstop-outfielder and on a low level find a way for that to help both teams,” Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak said Friday. “But the reality is we have just gotten to the point we wanted with our farm system — with more elite talent back and set to contribute to the major-league club. I’m not in the ...

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    1. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:40 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Heyman is telling us Shane Victorino to the Dodgers is very likely. Dominic Brown has been called up.
    2. Walks Clog Up the Bases posted on July 31, 2012 at 11:58 AM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Which should probably quash any hopes of a Soriano-to-LA trade.
    3. Lassus posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:00 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    THe really hilarious thing about Soriano being traded is I only relaly hear about it here. Is ANYONE actually courting the Cubs for him?
    4. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    via MLBtraderumors:

    Shane Victorino is returning to the organization that drafted him in 1999. The Dodgers acquired Victorino from the Phillies today for starting pitching prospect Ethan Martin and reliever Josh Lindblom, according to Yahoo's Tim Brown (Twitter link).
    5. Walks Clog Up the Bases posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:04 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    There were rumblings about a possible trade to the Giants, but Soriano said he would not accept a trade there. That's probably for the best given the enormous outfield there.
    6. Mike Webber posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:07 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    What time is the deadline? Midnight eastern?
    7. Walks Clog Up the Bases posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    4 EST.
    8. Kiko Sakata  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:08 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    What time is the deadline? Midnight eastern?


    No, it's 3pm (I'm not sure if that's Eastern or Central). I'm not sure why, seems odd to me.
    9. JJ1986 posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:14 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    It's been 4 for quite a while now.
    10. gef the talking mongoose posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:20 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    It's been 4 for quite a while now.


    Clearly, your clock is broken. It's 11:18 a.m. here.

    /smartass
    11. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:23 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Heyman, just now:

    sources: #SFGiants are closing in on deal for hunter pence. good counter to #dodgers.
    12. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Heyman says it's official.
    13. JJ1986 posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Any word on what Pence is being traded for? He should be worth a good return.
    14. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    15. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Any word on what Pence is being traded for? He should be worth a good return.

    WAY too early but Twitterverse will tell us soon enough.
    16. zonk posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0


    THe really hilarious thing about Soriano being traded is I only relaly hear about it here. Is ANYONE actually courting the Cubs for him?


    Supposedly, there was a fair bit of smoke to the Giants being interested but Soriano vetoing the trade.

    The LAD Soriano rumors were largely the Cubs essentially saying "If we can't get Lee or at least Webster, then you're taking Soriano, too".

    Either way, the Cubs were almost certainly paying so much freight that it doesn't really matter... I can't imagine anything of vale was coming back from SFG.

    Soriano's in kind of a different place employing his 10/5 rights than Dempster. If the Cubs pay a ton of freight - then there's a very real chance, a GOOD chance, that whomever takes him on just cuts him loose when the dead cat bounce is over with. Soriano still gets paid, of course, but I think he wants to play and wants the security that his big deal as paid solely by the Cubs afford him... They probably wouldn't seriously considering just eating it ALL until late next year, if that.

    So long as he stays on the Cubs, he doesn't have to worry much about finding someone to play him every day. As soon as the Cubs just accept contractual sunk costs -- whomever acquires him has the luxury of being done with him pretty much whenever they please...
    17. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:32 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Jim Bowden on Twitter:

    Hunter Pence deal with the Giants does not include Gary Brown, Brandon Belt or Kyle Crick according to Philies source
    18. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:33 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Jim Bowden again:

    Dodgers getting Dempster.....final dotting of i's and crossing of t's being worked on...
    19. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:35 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Dknobler:

    Tommy Joseph goes to Phils in Hunter Pence deal


    I don't know who DKnobler is or why I'm following him.
    20. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:37 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Andrew Baggarly:

    From Giants VP Bobby Evans on reports Pence deal is done: "Not accurate. No deal. Working through many options."
    21. mex4173 posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    DKnobler sounds like a dirty joke name that I don't get.
    22. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:44 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Nothing has happened in seven minutes.
    23. zonk posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:45 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I like Tommy Joseph... not sure I'd say he's enough for Pence alone or even a headliner to the deal, but I think Joseph has a chance to be a solid regular with a bit of pop.
    24. Joey B. has ignited his October #Natitude posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:47 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I love the fact that pretty much every single contender is making moves to get better and improve their chances of winning a championship other than the Nationals.

    HA-ha, just kidding. I don't love it at all, not one little bit.
    25. zonk posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Cubs are calling up Cardenas... With Castillo already up, Jackson supposedly in limbo (apparently, he's back in the Des Moines lineup today), and Coleman coming -- I'm speculating that LaHair is being tossed in with Dempster to sweeten the pot. That better put the deal in Lee territory if not Lee+more territory.
    26. Gern Blanston posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    If the Dodgers *aren't* after LaHair, they ought to be.
    27. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Jayson Stark:

    #Orioles-#Phillies deal for Joe Blanton sounds like it's on life support. Sides still far apart on money & players.


    He is only owed about 3M. What is the world could be the deal-breaker?
    28. cardsfanboy  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:51 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I love the fact that pretty much every single contender is making moves to get better and improve their chances of winning a championship other than the Nationals.


    I think of the Cardinals as a contender, and they seem to be staying pat.
    29. JJ1986 posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The Nats should be able to add Yorvit Torrealba or Kelly Shoppach at least.
    30. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    #Orioles-#Phillies deal for Joe Blanton sounds like it's on life support. Sides still far apart on money & players.

    He is only owed about 3M. What is the world could be the deal-breaker?
    Dan Duquette has a long history of being (generously speaking) a poor communicator with his fellow GMs. Plus Peter Angelos has to sign off on any deal.
    31. cardsfanboy  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:53 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    He is only owed about 3M. What is the world could be the deal-breaker?


    The fact that a team would be getting Joe Blanton.
    32. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:53 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The Dodger's Official Twitter:

    @Dodgers acquire @ShaneVictorino from PHI in exchange for Josh Lindblom, Ethan Martin & a player to be named later or cash considerations.
    33. hokieneer posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I love the fact that pretty much every single contender is making moves to get better and improve their chances of winning a championship other than the Nationals.


    Right there with you as a Reds' fan.
    34. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    MCoA: Thanks, good answer

    cardsfanboy: Touche.
    35. Rickey Fredonia Fudge Duckery Precious Twiddle posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Talking Chop is speculating on a possible Tommy Hanson deal out of Atlanta. I suspect this is completely internet conjecture and has no basis whatsoever in reality.
    36. Nasty Nate posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    He is only owed about 3M. What is the world could be the deal-breaker?


    As a general thing, I don't understand the general qualms that are reported about remaining salary when mid-season trades are discussed. You read things like 'an obstacle in a Pence deal is his estimated $12 million salary for 2013' which don't make any sense to me because almost every team in the league would take Pence on a one-year deal next off-season at that price. Teams give multi-year deals at 7 figures per to the Werths and Cuddyers every year but lesser salary commitments are reported as if they are cyanide if the acquisition is in the midseason.
    37. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:57 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    FWIW Aaron Gleeman on Hardball Talk has passed on Jim Bowden's news that the Dodgers are on the verge of getting Dempster.
    38. zonk posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:59 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Multiple sources confirming Doc/Gleeman in 37 -- Dempster will be a Dodger before 4 PM.

    That's going to be an interesting thread!
    39. cardsfanboy  posted on July 31, 2012 at 12:59 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Looks like the Dodgers are going all in this year. We all know they are going to get the Cardinals in the first round of the playoffs and lose again. :)
    40. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:01 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Talking Chop is speculating on a possible Tommy Hanson deal out of Atlanta. I suspect this is completely internet conjecture and has no basis whatsoever in reality.

    FWIW I follow about 150 baseball-related feeds including a couple Braves ones and I have not heard this at all.
    41. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:02 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Looks like the Dodgers are going all in this year.
    So far, though, they appear to be going all-in while retaining all of their top 10 prospects. That's a pretty nice feat.

    Of course, it was enabled by Ned Coletti's utterly awful offseason, in which he decided not to acquire anyone who had the ability to hit baseballs. The gaping holes in the lineup made it easy for Coletti to improve the team by adding some expiring contract mediocrities on the cheap.
    42. zonk posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:02 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Twitter is actually pretty awesome for stuff like this... plenty of chaff, of course, but still a rollicking good time.
    43. zonk posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:05 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So far, though, they appear to be going all-in while retaining all of their top 10 prospects. That's a pretty nice feat.


    That streak will end whenever the Dempster thing gets done... I mean - OK, so we won't get Lee or Webster, but no way Thed just lets them have Dempster without at least some lotto stuff like Silverio or whatnot. I'm not certain anything outside of Lee is going to be all that much better than a sandwich pick, so if the Dodgers won't do a couple of top 10ers outside of Lee/Webster... well... best of luck.
    44. jobu posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:06 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Who are some of the best people to follow on Twitter for reasonably reliable trade rumor info? I have found that the fantasy sports sites have way too much chaff to make following them worthwhile.
    45. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:07 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Twitter is actually pretty awesome for stuff like this... plenty of chaff, of course, but still a rollicking good time.

    It really is. It's better than refreshing mlbtraderumors every other minute during the deadline.
    46. Tom Nawrocki posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:08 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Isn't Ethan Martin the guy from "The Searchers"?
    47. Dock Ellis on Acid  posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Who are some of the best people to follow on Twitter for reasonably reliable trade rumor info? I have found that the fantasy sports sites have way too much chaff to make following them worthwhile.

    Right now, I follow just about every major sportswriter I can think of, along with the beat writers of all the teams I can find. Heyman and Rosenthal are obviously good places to start. If you follow them, you'll get recommendations to follow other like feeds.
    48. JJ1986 posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:11 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So far, though, they appear to be going all-in while retaining all of their top 10 prospects. That's a pretty nice feat.


    Eovaldi was one of their very top prospects and Lindblom was Top 10 according to both BA and Sickels.
    49. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:14 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Forgot about Eovaldi, my bad there. Had no idea Lindblom was a prospect, too.
    50. JJ1986 posted on July 31, 2012 at 01:18 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I actually think they gave up way too much for Victorino.

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