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Read More...The narratives around the two players, however, could not be different. Pedroia is almost the prototype of the over-achieving “scrappy” player. He is a 5’8” middle infielder who does the little things well. This ignores that he was also a second round draft choice who played baseball at a top baseball school. Cano, on the other hand is bigger, more athletic and does not project scrappiness at all. Throughout ...
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1 2 >So, in effect, calling him up to the majors would cost the team as well? Then it makes sense why the Yankees don't give really give him a shot if they think his ceiling is second or third lefty in the pen.
FTR, I drive faster than anybodys fastball.
http://riveraveblues.com/2010/07/why-kei-igawa-is-still-a-scranton-yankee-32818/
I believe that actually he technically is on the 40 man roster. It just becomes a 40+ man roster when guys hit the 60 day DL. Once he comes off the DL he is immediately added to the 40 man and if they want him off would have to go through the normal procedures to do so.
Could he even do that? I've got to think the Players' Association would strongly object. It's kind of too bad that there's such an adversarial relationship between labor and ownership in MLB, because this is the kind of situation where some kind of compromise would be best for everyone.
Who cares? Why should Kei take a bullet for the union? The union can't actually stop Kei from tearing up his own contract.
Compared to all the other major sports, the MLB and MLBPA's relationship is anything but adversarial.
Perhaps because they were out of options, and they could only DFA them, which leaves them on the hook for salary? Just guessing.
We are calling it purgatory. My guess, again, is that he is well-paid enough that it is an unusually comfortable purgatory.
Once a player has a certain amount of MLB service time (something like 3-4 years, I think), you can't send him down voluntarily - he can refuse the assignment, become a free agent, and still get paid.
I have no idea what Kei wants or how he views his current situation. I am merely stating my opinion on an "if".
Correct, he can "retire" any time he wants, releasing the Yankees from the contract.
He could then go play in Japan, or try to catch on somewhere else next year. The Yankees certainly wouldn't object to his "un-retirement" if he was off their books.
Can't they?
No. He can retire.
This is an excellent point, and very revealing of his motivation. Clearly Kei doesn't want to take the risk of losing the remainder of his current contract just to be able to play MLB baseball or for the Japanese team of his choice.
If I were his agent, I'd suggest a buyout to the Yankees so that they save money after luxury tax. If they get hit for a 40% surcharge on the buyout, you would think that anything below 70% would be an interesting number to them.
From the sound of the article, I'd hazard that Igawa's emulating Nomo, who was always willing to play in the minors if it meant a shot at a Major League team, and never returned to NPB once he left. Nomo's stoicism was lauded quite a bit over here when he retired.
Snapper, as you note, the potential problem with "retiring" in the typical case is that a player who doesn't like his current deal or situation can't simply "retire" and get a do-over. Although in this case, as you say, I doubt the Yankees would object.
Something Other is correct as well: According to Cot's, Igawa's deal is up after this year. The Yankees "only" paid $20 million over four years to him -- but they paid another $26 million for the right to negotiate for him. Just brutal. Where did they go wrong in their scouting of him? Was Cashman on board with this? Was their decision to sign him reasonable? I don't recall people calling them idiots at the time, although perhaps people were deferring to their scouting of him.
What's odd is that he's pitched ok in the minors, from the looks of things; one might think the Yankees would call him up either to try him out again as a 5th starter or just to pitch as the last man out of the pen, even if it's just as a LOOGY. It's not like the Yankees are awash with pitching. Although just eyeballing his major and minor league numbers, the home run ball seems like it's a problem.
None of that has anything to do with the fact that he could ask the Yankees to tear up his contract.
If he wanted to.
The San Diego interest was way back in 2007, and apparently there was some reluctance to give up on the Yanks investment that quickly. It's not like the Yankees have turned down any offers lately, and what's the problem with the trades to Japan? Igawa didn't suggest that there was any concern about the teams involved, just that he preferred (beats me why) to pitch in the United States. He's only 32, so someone will probably give him a shot next season, although almost certainly that will be in Japan if he wants anything more than a make-good contract.
Fine.
So, what is your point?
Why don't you just call it for what it likely is: He doesn't want to give up the money. Now, I don't blame him in the slightest for that -- I'd do the same thing myself -- but there's no sense cloaking this in "honor." (It's not dishonorable either.)
Both he and the Yankees are acting in their own best interests. That is entirely normal.
Sets a good example for the bushies... don't f with ownership.
I was just thinking this as well. If they just build like two or three new ballparks, they might get one at which Kei could pitch.
I wonder how often he's been to NYS?
In addition to what was already said about veterans being able to refuse minor league assignments, you have to clear waivers to be outrighted to the minors. The Yankees got to take Igawa off their 40-man roster because the other 29 teams passed on taking his contract off their hands.
Given that Igawa's put up respectable numbers in AAA, and may well think of himself as a winning pitcher with good enough peripherals, why wouldn't he think of himself as a guy who's being screwed by The Man--who has given him exactly NO innings in the majors in the last three years, not even as a lousy September callup--and as a pitcher whom the organization has unaccountably taken a dislike to and who would probably succeed, given any kind of fair shot to make it in the majors?
How many of you, if you'd been bad in a mere 72 innings three-four years back, got sent down and pitched 530 innings with an ERA of 3.83, a record of 36 and 25 and a 2.5 to 1 K/BB ratio at AAA, would think to yourself, "Gee, I really suck, I should give the money back. I can't blame the Yankees for giving me no chance at all to prove myself"? I'd guess the number is, oh, zero.
It's not up to him to make these decisions. The Yankees are paying him to play ball. If he's doing it at the best of his abilities then the Yankees must make the decision on the next steps.
It's like people aren't even following the discussion.
Why would anyone do this?
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