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    Alfonso Soriano willing to accept trade

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    posted on February 19, 2013 at 12:48 PM by RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) to alfonso soriano, alfonso soriano is available, cubs, giants, trade  |  30 comment(s)

    Wait….I had something for this.

    Cubs outfielder Alfonso Soriano told reporters on Monday that he’d accept a trade to “six or seven” other teams (ESPN Chicago).

    As Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune reminds us, Soriano last year had the chance to approve a trade to the Giants, eventual winners of belt and title, but opted not to do so. This time around, Soriano adds that he’d give the go-ahead for a team in the “east or center,” so perhaps nothing’s changed when it comes to his willingness ...

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    1. Voros McCracken of Pinkus posted on December 02, 2012 at 12:28 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The BBTF version of a hanging curve ball...
    2. Pat Rapper's Delight posted on December 02, 2012 at 12:38 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Alfonso Soriano is available?
    3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) posted on December 02, 2012 at 12:54 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    they may also call Whitey Herzog
    4. Shalimar posted on December 02, 2012 at 01:05 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I bet they could get Alex Rodriguez for him.
    5. Pops Freshenmeyer posted on December 02, 2012 at 01:18 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The article merely cites "major league sources" so I think the report is false.
    6. Shooty is in the Trust Tree  posted on December 02, 2012 at 01:23 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Clearly the Cubs aren't serious about competing. Hopefully Bud will nix any deal.
    7. zonk posted on December 02, 2012 at 01:24 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    At this point, 'available' is accurate --

    There's not really any pressing need to move him - he's got two years left, he was a perfectly cromulent part of the lineup last year, and he's not a Bradley/Zambrano clubhouse problem.

    If Soriano plays out the next two years in Chicago, that's not the end of the world - they don't really have anyone blocked in LF and his contract isn't hamstringing them financially anymore.

    So, yeah, I'd be 'open' to moving Soriano too -- of course -- but absolutely no interest in just moving him for another bad contract.

    I wouldn't a legitimate prospect back, but a lottery ticket or cheap low upside reliever, etc is what it would take... so no thanks to the A-Rods, the Ugglas, etc
    8. phredbird  posted on December 02, 2012 at 02:24 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    pass
    9. McCoy Wilfong for Money posted on December 02, 2012 at 02:47 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    His contract was never financially hamstringing them and moving him wouldn't have relieved the situation if his contract was a problem.
    10. Dale Sams posted on December 02, 2012 at 03:31 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    so no thanks to the A-Rods, the Ugglas, etc


    Would you have taken Carl Crawford last year before it was revealed he needed TJ?
    11. Gonna break my Rusty Kuntz and run . . . Arbitol posted on December 02, 2012 at 03:35 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    He'd be a major upgrade for the Mets.
    12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) posted on December 02, 2012 at 04:04 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    IT'S A TRAP!
    13. The Yankee Clapper posted on December 02, 2012 at 04:12 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    There have been rumors of Soriano's availability for quite some time, IIRC, but now that he is healthy again and playing reasonably well, it t shouldn't be that hard to move him if the Cubs really want to trade him. No big advantage in doing so either, but perhaps I'm underestimating Theo's talents.
    14. BDC  posted on December 02, 2012 at 04:32 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    "Bus" comps for Soriano:

    Player            Rfield   PA OPS+  3B  SB       Pos
    Jimmy Collins        121 7452  113 116 194       *5/9864
    Matt Williams         91 7595  113  35  53        *56/3D
    Ben Chapman           50 7424  114 107 287  897    /5416
    Johnny Callison       47 7437  115  89  74        *97/8D
    Del Pratt             35 7608  112 117 247     *4/365987
    George Burns          22 7237  113  72 154         *3/97
    George Kell           14 7529  112  50  51       *5/3749
    Ron Gant              12 7320  112  50 243      *784/5D9
    Jim Fregosi            4 7403  113  78  76      *635/D74
    Frank Schulte          4 7412  114 124 233         *97/8
    Dave Kingman             -58 7429  115  25  85   37D59/1
    Aramis Ramirez           -59 7588  116  22  25      *5/D
    Raul Ibanez              -61 7502  112  46  47 *7D93/825
    Alfonso Soriano          -78 7531  113  30 270  *74/D856 


    Interesting how many multi-position players are on the list. To play that long as a good but not dominant hitter, you usually have to have a few extra things going for you: glove, arm, speed, versatility. Ron Gant is the most similar of all across the board to Soriano, which sounds about right.

    Two HOFers among them: Collins, who is in the HOM as well for his glove and the HOF partly for his managing; and Kell, who was a really good player, but one of the weakest in the HOF; no shame in that.
    15. zenbitz posted on December 02, 2012 at 05:55 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Soriano is rather like Zito - in that he's too good to cut and no one will give you anything for a contract with net negative value (although according to fangraphs Soriano actually was breakeven in WAR/$). Zito is typically around -8/-9M year. But I guess with Zito you get health, and league average 4th/5th starters don't grown on trees.
    16. charityslave is thinking about baseball posted on December 02, 2012 at 07:40 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The principal difference between the perception of those two contracts is the two world series championships. Those two rings are the reason that no one here says "Barry Zito is available".
    17. The District Attorney posted on December 02, 2012 at 09:43 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Ron Gant is the most similar of all across the board to Soriano, which sounds about right.
    Yeah, he's the only one who seems even the slightest bit similar :) I guess it's because Soriano had much less defensive value than most of them, yet was much faster than Kingman/Aramis/Ibanez.

    He's 16th all-time in power/speed number!
    18. Walt Davis posted on December 02, 2012 at 09:49 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Those two rings are the reason that no one here says "Barry Zito is available".

    Nah, nobody here says that because Giants fans have no sense of humor.

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