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Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I loved "the U.
Did the Steve Bartman one ever come out?
I guess it depends what you mean by "loved"--it was unintentionally but brutally honest in depicting what a loathsome, despicable program that school had
Credit where credit is due: ESPN has by and large done a wonderful job with "30 for 30." The Marcus Dupree doc was the high point for me.
I'm sure Dayn has read it, but if you haven't read Willie Morris' "The Courting of Marcus Dupree," you're missing out.
Edit: Oh, and the Reggie Miller/Knicks started off well, but didn't hold me interest enough for me to really recommend it.
I saw most of the Miller one as well, and it was well done, but was not convinced it would attract the casual fan. The draft-day stuff and Cheryl Miller stuff was good, but the theme was not as profound as the best ones.
not the directors fault, of course....
Did the Steve Bartman one ever come out?
Yeah, it was last year, I believe. It probably is available on Netflix. I know ESPN is adding those to Netflix.
Funny enough, I never got a chance to see the baseball ones entirely (Jordan on the bus, Roto, 2004 Red Sox, Steinbrenner).
just as a heads up, netflix has added the original 30 for 30 films (plus a few of the other ones that were produced in the interim) to their instant streaming catalog.
"Miami was bad for a long time. Then they hired Howard Schnellenberger, and he recruited good players. The good players were good, and the team was good. They also did a lot of things that annoyed a lot of people. THE U! THE U! THE U!"
There was little attempt at explaining the team's success beyond airing a lot of interviews where players just said, "We were really good." As I said, I found it pretty uninsightful.
They're pretty much all bad. The 2004 Red Sox doc and the Steinbrenner doc are by far the worst ones in the series. Jordan on the Bus should have been excellent, but goes nowhere. I missed the roto one, heard mixed things. Bartman was very good, so that's one good baseball doc. I have high hopes for Bo.
the biggest issue i had with that film was that it completely ignored the fact that neither team won anything of consequence during that era.
30 for 30, the Jeff francoeur story.
as a very serious college football fan, and someone with a long memory, the U was disappointing for its POV. I wasn't expecting it to be overly critical, but it was basically, 'yeah we were bad dudes, but #### you we're the U'. Kosar seemed hammered during his appearances. A lot of pertinent information was ignored/glossed over. They totally ignored having a chance to win the '85 title after Iowa lost the Rose and OU (a team they beat in the regular season was beating PSU in the Orange), meanwhile Tennessee absolutely punked the Canes in the Sugar Bowl, like it never happened.
I don't think anyone can really understand how crazy it is that such an unsuccessful franchise (40+ years without a title, 7 years without the playoffs, and only 9 seasons with more than 50% wins in the past 50) can still pull huge attendance/TV/merchandise numbers.
Did anyone watch The Guru of Go? I don't know if it was bad, but I was disappointed that it was almost all about Hank Gathers and barely about Westhead and The System at all.
I'd also like to see an outsider come into Toronto and do a doc about the unbreakable Toronto Maple Leaf fan support. I don't think anyone can really understand how crazy it is that such an unsuccessful franchise (40+ years without a title, 7 years without the playoffs, and only 9 seasons with more than 50% wins in the past 50) can still pull huge attendance/TV/merchandise numbers. Other legendary teams (Canadiens, Yankees, Red Sox) had down periods, but not the Leafs.
A 30-for-30 on the NHL's seemingly-failed move southward, and its impact on the old and new host cities, could be compelling.
They could do a 30-30 on the conspiracy to rob Seattle of their NBA team. I'm pretty sure David Stern is evil. Actually, they could do a 30-30 on all the cities Stern has screwed over since he's been commissioner.
I wish they had the guts to do a 30-30 on the Tim Donaghy scandal and related NBA ref issues.
There was an actual scandal? The whole thing seemed to go away pretty quickly.
I'd still like to know the truth of Jordan's first "retirement"
I would say the Leafs have had three distinct periods when they were quite good, each about a generation apart -- the Sittler Leafs (late 70s), the Gilmour Leafs (early 90s), and the Sundin Leafs (early 00s) -- were all minor contenders and forged a new generation of Leafs fans. People like to talk as if they've been constantly bad for 45 years, but that hasn't been the case.
if the Yankees didn't make it to the World Series for the next 20 years.
Bo was certainly big but if you're going to credit any individual, surely it's Jordan (and Spike Lee).
Mars Blackmon ads started running in February of 1988
Considering Toronto's financial advantage over almost every other team in the league, this would be like if the Yankees didn't make it to the World Series for the next 20 years.
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