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But what if the two wild card teams are only separated by a game or two? Does it still make sense to give the top wild card team so much of an advantage?
it's a stupid idea, a solution to an occasional instance of "unfairness" that ignores the other issues it would create/potentially create.
Guess I'm in the minority but I like this. I like the idea of creating legitimate incentives for teams to keep playing hard and finish as high as they can in the standings.
Under the current system, the incentive to win the Division title is huge.
I don't think "incentive" should play into it, unless it significantly depresses the incentives created by making a Wild Card Game in the first place.
In order to create sufficient incentive to win the 1st wild card, and not just “any wild card,” making the 2nd wild card sweep a two-game series in order to advance is more fair to the 1st wild card winner.
the incentive to win one division of three is much bigger than it was.
The incentive to win one of the other two is smaller than it used to be.
What do you mean?
Incentive or not, it's really hard to win a division that you are not in.... (sorry)
Oh, if for some reason you changed the system so that being the first Wild Card was almost always an automatic pass to the ALDS, then much of the incentive to win the division is eliminated again.
I understand that part, but then why did you write that incentive shouldn't play into it?
Because I don't think we should care if it creates an incentive to win the First Wild Card over the Second Wild Card.
But if you do something that makes the postseason more entertaining, but rolls back the incentive for winning the division, then in *that* case incentive should play into it.
I don't think "incentive" should play into it, unless it significantly depresses the incentives created by making a Wild Card Game in the first place. I just like the idea of more baseball games.
The post-season feels like a gimmick to me, a way for MLB to make yet more money,
Under the current scenario (itself with its own problems that I've tediously gone over), Anaheim is more likely to go all out to catch Oakland (and avoid the one-game playoff) than if they know they'll have a substantial edge against Toronto in the 1970s NBA-inspired 2 to win 1 playoff.
Sure the 2 game idea gives them an advantage but 2 game losing streaks are common even for the best of teams.
How would you feel about switching to an NBA or NHL type playoff system? More games!
I realize that no one but (maybe?) Ray will agree with me, but I'd prefer a single 30-team league. The team with the best record after 162 games wins, and that's it. I don't need a playoff race to make baseball exciting, when I'm watching a game I'm interested in who is going to win THIS game.
The post-season feels like a gimmick to me, a way for MLB to make yet more money, which also has the effect of decreasing the likelihood that the best team wins the prize that people care most about.
Not when you consider the various costs to doing so. Going all out comes at a cost (starting pitcher availability). Avoiding a do-or-die is going to get you to take more risks than avoiding a do-or-do-or-die, which is the exact opposite of what Jose says will happen.
I realize that no one but (maybe?) Ray will agree with me, but I'd prefer a single 30-team league. The team with the best record after 162 games wins, and that's it.
Why not just have the second wild card team play a man down? Or spot their opponents two runs before the game starts? Those ideas are no worse than having to win both games of a two-game playoff. Once you make the playoffs, the competition should be fair, with nothing beyond home field advantage rigged to favor one team.
Why should they have home field advantage? Play in a neutral site.
You can save your 2 best pitchers for the WC games or pitch them in games 161-2. If you save them for the WC game, they won't be able to start games 1-2 of the division series. Assuming it takes 2 games to win. I think I'd prefer to maximize my chances to win the division.
the team with the most points at the end of the season wins the league
You could go to 3-game WC round, 7-game divisionals, and 9-game WS, eliminating the rest/travel days. Everyone should experience a Zmariners schedule.
my only real problem with the current setup is that the wild card is (still) treated too much like a division winner
My gripe is the postseason is too different from regular season baseball, unlike other sports.
A very real problem with the current setup is the worst division winner is seldom as good as the first wildcard team,
The only reason we have wild cards at all is because picking by division winners sucks, and baseball doesn't want the travesty of a a 98 win team staying home while an 82 win division winner gets to go.
the D-backs went to elimination games in both the NLDS and the World Series, and won the latter by about as slim a margin as a team can.
MLB post season isn't that much removed from the regular season, sure you reduce dependence on a fifth starter, and it's broken up enough that teams don't have to rest their relievers and can over tax them to an extent, but that is what is good about it, you are getting the best of each team and not relying on guys who's only real role is roster depth.
Why should that bother us? It's more fun watching good pitchers and good hitters rather than scrubs.
by terrible, you mean awesome way to involve fans of other teams and promote parity, right?
I would say the '01 Mariners greatest strength was their offense (most runs scored among all 30 teams, highest OPS+ by a good margin in the majors).
But that's way too dependent on luck. The champion should be the team with the best Pythagorean record, with a tiebreaker formula devised by Keith Law.
If it doesn't matter to you whether it's the same team and same players, why not eliminate the trading deadline and all roster restrictions for the playoffs? If Tulowitski is healthy, why not let him play for the Brewers, you'd rather see him hit than Jean Segura wouldn't you? What is the point of a regular season if you don't care who is actually wearing the uniforms in the playoffs?
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