Clemens doesn't sound like he's saying he wants to pitch for Houston next year. It sounds like he wants to coach and "help the kids out."

But if he does:
27 GS, 165 IP, 110 K, 55 BB, 22 HR, 4.04 ERA, 10-10.

364 Wins!

Ah heck, give him 2 more wins and then he can tell Pud Galvin to suck it too.

I'm only in support of this if he gets ten starts before getting dropped, no wins, 6.72 ERA, and at his last start Maddux is seated behind the plate laughing his ass off.

Good luck with that. At every turn, Clemens has destroyed Maddux. This will just be the icing on the cake.

“I’d listen, but I have to do some work again,” Clemens said. " My HGH and EPO are undergoing neutron bombardment in a basement in Berkeley so that their isotope levels will match that of my body by next spring. I should be ready then."

Not sure if this has been discussed here yet, but at some point if Clemens just keeps doing the Clemens thing...combing back older and older and still pitching better than just about anybody ever at each of these ages, doesn't that kind of add to the idea that hey, maybe this guy really was truly one of the greatest pitchers ever and it's not a PED thing?

But if he does:
27 GS, 165 IP, 110 K, 55 BB, 22 HR, 4.04 ERA, 10-10.

364 Wins!

His ERA would have to be 2 points lower to win 10 games with that sorry bunch.

I don't think anyone disputes that Clemens was one of the greatest pitchers ever. Nobody, I think, is saying he used anything from 1984-1996. It's 1997 onward that people suspect. And those people will suspect that he's taking a designer steroid now.

I doubt he could beat a MLB team today. I doubt he will be able to ever beat a MLB team again.

Edit...I think he'd get crushed.

Well, Jamie Moyer won two games this year and I'm 99% certain Roger Clemens has better stuff right now than Moyer.

His ERA would have to be 2 points lower to win 10 games with that sorry bunch.

Yea, he posted a 1.87 ERA and won just 13 games with a team that scored 4.25 runs per game. This team is scoring 3.63 runs per game, and some of that was with Carlos Lee, who they don't have anymore.

10...I'm not sure he can reinvent himself as a "soft tosser". I see batters waiting and teeing of on his "fastball".

This team is scoring 3.63 runs per game, and some of that was with Carlos Lee, who they don't have anymore.

Also Jed Lowrie who they don't have anymore and Chris Johnson who they don't have anymore.

Clemens coming back and being suspended 50 games for PED use would be the greatest moment in baseball history.

Good luck with that. At every turn, Clemens has destroyed Maddux. This will just be the icing on the cake.

He really has. I kept thinking Maddux would eventually surpass him, and it never happened.

I doubt he could beat a MLB team today. I doubt he will be able to ever beat a MLB team again.

I think he'd have a chance against the Astros. Too bad the Astros are the team that wants him to pitch for them.

My HGH and EPO are undergoing neutron bombardment in a basement in Berkeley so that their isotope levels will match that of my body by next spring.

Exogenous hGH and EPO are not detected by isotope ratio tests.

Clemens, who recently turned 50, was also asked what he’d say if Astros owner Jim Crane called him and asked him to pitch.

"Sure, I'd listen if Jim Crane called."

"I kept thinking Maddux would eventually surpass him, and it never happened."

surpass him in WHAT? As in, more wins, like John Burkett surpassed Sandy Koufax??

The Rangers should sign him now. He looks better than Oswalt.

And those people will suspect that he's taking a designer steroid now.

From the looks of Clemens, it's more likely that he's taking designer doughnuts.

I remember a discussion thread about 6 or 7 years ago regarding Roberto Alomar.

I believe the subject matter dealt with Alomar's then current capabilities as a MLB player.

When you followed the embedded link, a j-peg of a piece of burnt toast appeared.

That picture is what should pop up on everyones screen the moment Roy Oswalt's name is mentioned

10...I'm not sure he can reinvent himself as a "soft tosser". I see batters waiting and teeing of on his "fastball".

I'm sure that if Clemens dedicated himself to pitching in the majors again, he could add at least a few MPH to that fastball.

I think this is a brilliant move to kick his HOF clock down the road after some of the steroids fervor has died off. Whereas the Astros have to be happy with anything that brings a few extra fans to the ballpark at this moment.

When you followed the embedded link, a j-peg of a piece of burnt toast appeared.

That was genius by Szym. Had to be at least 8 years ago (Alomar's final season was 2004), and maybe 9.

No, you're right, it was 7. Alomar signed before spring training but didn't play in 2005.

http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/oracle/discussion/devil_rays_signed_alomar

10. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 17, 2005 at 08:50 PM (#1084949)
So let me get this straight: after a franchise best 70 wins last year and with a farm system bursting with MLB-ready talent, the D-Rays believe that the best way to spend 2005 is to play Gonzalez over Upton at 3B, Alomar over Cantu at 2B, and Baustista over Gomes/Gathright/Diaz in LF (until Baldelli returns).

Note: this was Danny Bautista. Jose Bautista had already been traded to the Royals in 2004. Gonzalez was Alex Gonzalez.

At this time the Devil Rays had also signed Brian Buchanan, Josh Phelps, Shane Halter, Jimmy Haynes, and Dee Brown, and were about to sign Chris Singleton, Travis Lee, Denny Neagle, and Hideo Nomo. Of those people only Lee, Nomo and Phelps made the team. Other stars such as Eric Munson, Charles Johnson, and Alex Sanchez joined the team at the end of spring training. What an organization!

Rather than playing Alomar at 2B they traded Jorge Sosa for Nick Green at the end of spring training and split the position between him and Cantu. Gonzalez and Cantu split 3B. Bautista retired in March after an ankle injury. Crawford stayed in left field. Gathright and Damon Hollins split CF with unimpressive results. Upton stayed in the minors. Jonny Gomes and Scott Kazmir were the breakout stars. (ROY #3, #9)