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3. Carlos Gomez, CF, Brewers: Season Stats: .367/.418/.644, 5 HR, 10 RBI, 4 SB
Prior to 2012, Gomez’s career-high in home runs was eight, and his .250/.305/.463 line last year represented career-highs in all three categories, so he is set up for a larger fall than most here. Still, one has to recognize how valuable he has been so far this season. After all, the reason Gomez didn’t wash out of the majors ...
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1. JJ1986 posted on November 11, 2012 at 02:20 PM # hit 0 | hit 0Wrong.
This is satire, right?
The latter won't matter (the voting being completed before the regular season ended), and the former's never been much of an impediment in the Cy.
It's a two-man race in the AL, and neither winner would surprise me (I'd give a very slight edge to Price, gutly speaking).
Kids, stay in school. If you don't, we'll have to make you a sports writer.
WAR: JV 5, DP 4, Harrison 3, Sale 2, Kuroda 1 (using bWAR)
ERA: DP 5, JV 4, Weaver 3, CS 2, Felix 1
Wins: DP 4.5, JW 4.5, MH 3, CS 1.5, JV 1.5
WHIP: JW 5, JV 4, Peavy 3, DP 2, CS 1
Ks: JV 5, Scherzer 4, Shields & Felix 2, Darvish 1
So Verlander wins on this silly measure because of Ks -- Price is ahead 15.5 to 14.5 to that point. Not that there's anything wrong with that but it's a bit silly to rail against WAR or other modern pitching stats then let it all come down to Ks, the backbone of fancy pants pitching stats.
It's a bit odd that innings don't enter directly into this silly measure. They come indirectly via WAR and Ks (and possibly wins).
Anyway, it's not at all hard to make the case for Verlander, in fact I hadn't realized that anybody was making a case against him. Price beats him in ERA but that's only a .08 difference (and Verlander wins on ERA+). Verlander has 27 more innings which is not insignificant. He leads in Ks, K/9, K/BB and CGs over Price. The only category where Price beats him is wins ... if you're not going to let wins play a major role in your CYA decision, you are already a saber-oriented CYA voter.
Basically Verlander beat or equalled Price on every performance measure and threw 27 more innings. It's close but if A performed as well as B in more playing time, A wins.
In Kornacki's (weak) defense, he does at least mention Verlander's innings in the article and it seems like he values them.
But, yeah, this whole exercise is pretty silly and mathematically illiterate, even if it does come up with an answer that is completely supportable.
I do think Price is likely to win the award and won't be upset if it happens (I'm a Tiger fan but had Price on my fantasy team), but I would vote for Verlander myself for exactly the reasons Walt describes.
Based on "quality of innings" (ERA, WHIP, K/BB, etc.), the top guys are all pretty close. Verlander wasn't clearly the best pitcher on a per-inning basis -- in fact, he finishes second or third in most of the rate categories -- and there are reasonable arguments to be made for Price (ERA) or Weaver (WHIP) as the "most effective" pitcher in the AL. But when you look at quantity of innings -- also very important, which is why I don't consider Weaver (188.2 IP) a serious Cy Young contender -- Verlander has a significant advantage over everyone except King Felix.
For me, it comes down to Price vs. Verlander, and I think Verlander's IP advantage outweighs Price's ERA advantage. If you dig even deeper into the stats, looking at quality of defense, park factors, and quality of opponents, I expect Verlander looks even stronger.
Glad I re-read it:-)
This is what puts it over the top for Verlander for me (though I am admittedly a Tigers fan.) The ERA comes out to be one less run that Price allowed in his 211 IP. The extra 27 IP that Verlander gives with virtually no reduction in effectiveness is why I would give it to him.
That being said, I could see others deciding differently, and I would not be upset at all if Price won it.
Do they teach double negatives in Hooked on Phonics? It's about time! :-)
The Park Factor giveth (Verlander) and the Park Factor taketh away (Cabrera).
Since Comerica played as a slight hitter's park this year, once you factor in the park adjustments, you don't even really need the baserunning and defense to make a case for Mike Trout in the MVP discussion with Cabrera. Trout essentially hit as well or better than Cabrera once you neutralize the park effects.
At least that's what the 2012 numbers say. If you don't believe in one-year park effects but are more in line with multi-year adjustments, your results may vary.
Not really:
Det 1-year batting: 104 ... multi-year: 104
Ana 1-year batting: 91 ... multi-year: 92
You just have to believe they're wrong. And not conclusive but interesting:
MC on road: 327/384/529, 16 HR
MT on road: 332/402/544, 14 HR
Cabrera's home numbers are actually quite similar except for the 360 ISO.
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