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Right... plus - Cerrano, from what I learned in the movie, basically struck out all season until his one HR in the playoffs. At least Hayes had that wall of batting gloves which presumably proved he HAD gotten on base occasionally stole a few bags. Nothing in the movie indicates that Cerrano was anything besides 0 for 650 with 650 K's.
The trick is to listen to the ST scene in Major League 2. They clearly state that WMH was the best leadoff hitter in the game, and that Cerrano led the team in most offensive categories (including total baldness)
For me the biggest travesty is wasting Wild Thing in the pen. Make Clark a coach put Vaughn in the starter's spot, an ace starter is worth 3 closers.
edit: I'd also point out that Vaughn only had 2 good relief appearances in both movies. One at the end of ML 1 (he was a starter until they put him in the pen for the last game against Chicago) and he was bad even in the pen in ML 2 until the last game of the season. That's 2 good relief appearances in 2 seasons, opposed to most of a season as an ace starter.
I'd also ask, why not Brewster? He could get anybody out once, he even went through the heart of the Yankees order before running out of gas in a third consecutive inning. Seems like he'd be the perfect wily veteran for the pen.
Here's a ranking of the best fictional players at each position. Some ######## whinging about the state of baseball these days by the author, and a lot of crossover, but it identifies a few more potential players.
As much as I love Major League 1 & 2 (a lot) this list is just too heavy with those movies. Dorn at 3rd? Rube even making the list at C? Not to mention he apparently didn't pay too much attention as Haywood wasn't the one who threw at his kid, it was the relief pitcher they sacrificed Dorn to.
Wasn't the guy who played Haywood an actual all-star?
56.tfbg9 posted on March 02, 2013 at 10:06 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
"Right-hand hitting Joe Jackson" caused me to chuckle. Good one.
Chip Hilton? 3 sport (at least) phenom?
57.buddaley posted on March 02, 2013 at 10:27 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
Pete Vuckovich played Haywood. He was a Cy Young winner in 1982 and a rotation regular primarily for the Cards and Brewers in the late 1970s, early 1980s. Strangely, even in his Cy Young season, he seems never to have been on an all-star team.
58.booond posted on March 02, 2013 at 11:48 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
Even TFA article mentions that Haywood was a triple crown winner. I wonder if the author did not want to make the starting lineup Major League heavy, or forgot that he was a 1B (he picked off WMH on Opening Day by pointing out his shoes were untied).
60.MNB posted on March 02, 2013 at 01:33 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
I'm not convinced that you really need a five man rotation if you've got Steve Nebraska. I'm thinking three man rotation, at most. Also, you've got to get his bat in the line up every day.
Pete Vuckovich played Haywood. He was a Cy Young winner in 1982 and a rotation regular primarily for the Cards and Brewers in the late 1970s, early 1980s. Strangely, even in his Cy Young season, he seems never to have been on an all-star team.
I didn't realize that, I always pointed to Kirk Gibson as an MVP without an all star appearance, never thought to look for a pitchers equivalent.
62.Der_K posted on March 02, 2013 at 05:46 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
58 - we're counting books now?
63.booond posted on March 02, 2013 at 05:52 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
58 - we're counting books now?
Roy Hobbs and Henry Wiggen are characters from novels.
64.Gamingboy posted on March 02, 2013 at 06:10 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
I seem to remember, as a kid, reading a book about a kid who only hits home runs. He'd belong on the team.
65.puck posted on March 02, 2013 at 06:28 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
Roy Hobbs and Henry Wiggen are characters from novels.
That also had movies made.
66.booond posted on March 02, 2013 at 06:34 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
That also had movies made.
The characters came from novels.
67.booond posted on March 02, 2013 at 06:48 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
That also had movies made.
The characters came from novels.
68.Der_K posted on March 02, 2013 at 07:09 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
Sure, like lots of stuff. But they were in movies - like pretty much everybody else here.
69.haven posted on March 02, 2013 at 07:12 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
Montgomery Brewster in the pen?
Spike Nolan was at least as good as Crash Davis.
70.phatj posted on March 02, 2013 at 07:13 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
If you just go by the title of the article, baseball characters from novels would certainly qualify. The author limited it to movie characters in his text, however (then went on to break his own rule by including Sam Malone and Kenny Powers).
71.phatj posted on March 02, 2013 at 07:15 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
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72.phatj posted on March 02, 2013 at 07:17 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
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73.WSPanic posted on March 02, 2013 at 07:58 PM #hit 0 | hit 0
I question whether Darryl Palmer from The Slugger's Wife had a better single year in RF than Roy Hobbs did.
As far as I know, they were both pretty much one-year wonders.
75.tfbg9 posted on March 03, 2013 at 12:56 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
Anybody else remember the 60's Peanuts panels where Schultz would draw various characters at bat, swinging from the heels, with a little exploded asterick kind of symbol surrounding their batting averages, marking the spot where wood met horsehide? In my minds eye, I envision Snoopy and Linus and Peppermint Patty could rake...
76.bjhanke posted on March 03, 2013 at 07:28 AM #hit 0 | hit 0
Snoopy, over the decades, was essentially portrayed as Honus Wagner on a lousy team - the only player worth having, but an absolute superstar. However, if you're counting books now, The Kid From Tomkinsville plays right field and hits third, and you have to have the identical twin double play combination at least on the bench. - Brock Hanke
Catcher: Bruce Pearson of "Bang the Drum Slowly" was "not a bad ball player neither when they gave him the chance." Also, Red Traphagen had been a fine catcher, though by the time of the movie he comes back as a coach.
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< 1 2The trick is to listen to the ST scene in Major League 2. They clearly state that WMH was the best leadoff hitter in the game, and that Cerrano led the team in most offensive categories (including total baldness)
For me the biggest travesty is wasting Wild Thing in the pen. Make Clark a coach put Vaughn in the starter's spot, an ace starter is worth 3 closers.
edit: I'd also point out that Vaughn only had 2 good relief appearances in both movies. One at the end of ML 1 (he was a starter until they put him in the pen for the last game against Chicago) and he was bad even in the pen in ML 2 until the last game of the season. That's 2 good relief appearances in 2 seasons, opposed to most of a season as an ace starter.
As much as I love Major League 1 & 2 (a lot) this list is just too heavy with those movies. Dorn at 3rd? Rube even making the list at C? Not to mention he apparently didn't pay too much attention as Haywood wasn't the one who threw at his kid, it was the relief pitcher they sacrificed Dorn to.
Chip Hilton? 3 sport (at least) phenom?
I didn't realize that, I always pointed to Kirk Gibson as an MVP without an all star appearance, never thought to look for a pitchers equivalent.
Roy Hobbs and Henry Wiggen are characters from novels.
That also had movies made.
The characters came from novels.
The characters came from novels.
Spike Nolan was at least as good as Crash Davis.
I question whether Darryl Palmer from The Slugger's Wife had a better single year in RF than Roy Hobbs did.
As far as I know, they were both pretty much one-year wonders.
He's a fictional fictional character.
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