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He wouldn't even by my choice as most valuable bench player on the Clippers (Barnes).
Most Valuable Player (specify top 5 in order; voting will be 10/7/5/3/1)
Defensive Player of Year (top 3; voting will be 5/3/1)
Sixth Man of the Year (top 3)
Rookie of the Year (top 3)
Coach of the Year (top 3)
He takes a bunch of shots but does very little otherwise and he's one of the worst rebounders in the entire NBA. He wouldn't even by my choice as most valuable bench player on the Clippers (Barnes). If you wanted a one dimensional guard, why wouldn't you pick Kevin Martin instead?
Will my ballot instantly be voided if I list Al Jefferson as DPOY?
a la the Cameron/Cano bit that won't die.
popovich is the best coach almost without question, but since this is a seasonal award and he hasn't really distinguished himself this season, he's out.
I'm not familiar with this reference. Maybe I don't spend enough time on the other BBTF threads?
Maybe I've just missed it, but what's his baggage?
1. If they are the very best of this player type, they can be the face of a good team, at least once their achilles recovers.
I'd have concerns. Basically, the stories suggest he has an extremely overbearing father that was playing the system like a fiddle to get his son into this spot.
which again suggests dishonesty to game the system
Defense and regular season awards: How do people weigh average performance v. peak performance. In other words, do you fully penalize for taking plays off? I used to - but have edged away from that stance.
berg - thanks for the explanation on Hibbert. I get where you're coming from, but lots of guys who could win it this year. Agree on Noah too - he'd be in my top 3 for sure if he'd played the full season.
And highest all-time in the post-merger era.
I also think James gets *way* too much credit for guarding the toughest player on the other team. In the playoffs he does this some, in the regular season Heat games I watched, Wade drew just as many of the toughest assignments.
when [LeBron] doesn't play that max effort D all the time, and he gets to play with Shane Battier next to him 30 minutes per night...he ends up in a battle for HM.
Agreed. It's kinda baffling to me that LeBron seemingly will win DPOY on this board. I understand that he plays more minutes than some of the other guys that have clearly been more valuable defensively per possession (eg Duncan, Garnett, and Sanders), but what's the argument for ranking him ahead of Marc Gasol and Paul George? Is it just a matter of taking perceived ability over performance?
The Zack Lowe article from a while back about the camera tracking system the Raptors are trying to use to measure defense mentioned James was so active and effective on defense, he was doing than the better hypothetical ideal defender the system set up, I don't think he does that by being lazy.
what's the argument for ranking him ahead of Marc Gasol and Paul George? Is it just a matter of taking perceived ability over performance?
What are Miami's PPP numbers with Lebron on/off-court? I know Garnett's gaudy numbers have been evidence of his team defense numbers, but I'm not sure if I've ever seen LeBron's (Are these readily available somewhere?)
Now, everytime there's a thread about Cano, that patrician blowhard 'zop has to repost it for some reason.
I guess one thing that is tricky about LeBron is that I'm not convinced he's a better defender than Wade.
This is crazy to me. Wade is an habitual gambler with persistent effort issues on the defensive end.
According to WojYahoo on Twitter - Tracy McGrady (!?) to join the Spurs.
Yeah, Wilt in '64 had to contend with Russell, Bellamy, a near-done Pettit, and a bunch of guys who'd be undersized power forwards in today's game.
This reminds me, I forgot to mention that I went to the Jordan Classic this past weekend
Hmmm, would the valuation stats point to Norris Cole as the difference between the Heat and 70 wins this year? Or was he not that bad?
Y'all voting for baby Gasol should acknowledge that he only scores 13 a game at below .500 shooting.
That said, DEN really should be able to beat PHX. How would 57 wins compare to their preseason projections? I feel like it would be in range, which is funny considering the furor over the projections as well as DEN's start to the season.
(Russlan): Does anyone else think that LeBron is going to have a significantly better year than he has ever had before?
(Conor): I hear what you're saying, but I'm going to say no if only because i can't imagine a guy having a significantly better season than Lebron has the past couple of years.
Byron Mullens -35.9Austin Rivers -25.5Will Barton -18.3Earl Clark -10.8DeQuan Jones -9.1Kendall Marshall -8.6Nolan Smith -7.0Marquis Teague -5.5Norris Cole -3.7Earl Barron -3.7
James 682.6Durant 513.2Westbrook 431.7Paul 407.6George 402.8Harden 377.9Wade 368.0Bryant 365.9Griffin 363.8Curry 361.0
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