But since liberals think intelligence can't be measured

Jesus Christ, talk about a strawman. For the record, I did not participate in that discussion, but I read it and Ray is egregiously mischaracterizing the views of his opponents on this one.

Jesus Christ, talk about a strawman. For the record, I did not participate in that discussion, but I read it and Ray is egregiously mischaracterizing the views of his opponents on this one.

No, I am not. To sum up: Intelligence can't be defined. It can't be measured, certainly not with IQ tests.

No, I am not. To sum up: Intelligence can't be defined. It can't be measured, certainly not with IQ tests.

You're doing it again.

There is a difference between saying that innate "intelligence", independent of environmental factors, is not precisely measured by IQ tests, and saying that it's impossible to tell the difference between a smart person and a moron.

Dickey does have a certain cadence that I think might lead a casual observer at one glance to underrate the extent of his intellect. It's also startingly unusual for a major league baseball player to be as deep a thinker as he is. It's like watching a dog play the piano.

Many of the smartest beat guys and columnists were captivated by Dickey. Teammates didn't quite as, well, metaphysical, to say the least.

I don't have a degree in English lit, but are these statements made by Dickey grammatically correct?

"If I would have went back to school."

"I shooked his hand."

By the way, it appears that he didn't graduate because he signed after his junior year. Obviously that's completely different from failing out of school, but "3.35 GPA in English literature you twit," as was presented above, doesn't entirely tell the story.

Until a couple months ago I had never heard Dickey speak. He has a bit more of (what I assume is) a Tennessee accent than I realized. This may or may not (I'm guessing not) have anything to do with your perception, but in my bigoted way of perceiving the world that's usually a superficial point against someone's intelligence.

When I was at MIT, I knew people from the South and the West. They spoke with drawls or accents, whatever you want to call it, and I would put their raw intellect up against anyone on this board.

Jesus Christ, talk about a strawman. For the record, I did not participate in that discussion, but I read it and Ray is egregiously mischaracterizing the views of his opponents on this one.

Ma nishtana halaila hazeh mikol haleilot?

He used to be a poster. Now, he is merely a piece of performance art

By the way, it appears that he didn't graduate because he signed after his junior year. Obviously that's completely different from failing out of school, but "3.35 GPA in English literature you twit," as was presented above, doesn't entirely tell the story.

Holy crap, you just can't stop topping yourself.

Holy crap, you just can't stop topping yourself.

So is this proper English?

"If I would have went back to school."

"I shooked his hand."

Oh, also, I take that back, you really HAVE taken to this lying thing.

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Holy crap, you just can't stop topping yourself.

Just remember that you really, really appreciate his contributions to the site.

Just remember that you really, really appreciate his contributions to the site.

Something Other, at least Lassus has better things to do than to follow me around constantly lobbing personal attacks at me; unfortunately, we can't say the same for you and Srul.

I knew people from the South and the West. They spoke with drawls or accents, whatever you want to call it, and I would put their raw intellect up against anyone on this board.

Why thank you kind sir!

Something Other, at least Lassus has better things to do than to follow me around constantly lobbing personal attacks at me; unfortunately, we can't say the same for you and Srul.

Dingy, I can promise you that when you show up on threads related to the only team I follow closely, and you do so solely in order to be a depressive, ranting, soulless asshole, I'm going to point that out.

Begone, you lusterless gnome.

Trust me, you don't want this place to devolve into strict Kos-like groupthink, however intolerably insufferable us outliers must appear.

This place is fairly heterodox when it comes to politics, though the mix is a touch unusual with the main clusters being more or less squishy Obama type liberals on the center-left and Randroid style glibertarians on the far right. It's only on baseball subjects that it resembles a Stalinist groupuscle.

He has a bit more of (what I assume is) a Tennessee accent than I realized. This may or may not (I'm guessing not) have anything to do with your perception, but in my bigoted way of perceiving the world that's usually a superficial point against someone's intelligence.

That's ok. In my bigoted way of perceiving the world, a northeastern accent is a profound point against someone's manners and a superficial point against their decency. Yay for our tribalist society.

Why thank you kind sir!

I never pictured you as the brass rat type.

Anyway, Dickey comes up smelling of roses here. He gets his extension, he gets to play for a contending team instead of a laughingstock and he is going to be a media darling in Toronto, telling his story to a new audience who will like him a lot (judging by their hockey players the modest, friendly, personable guys do very well in Canada).

Could be a problem, though, when Dickey runs for president in 2024: "Dickey? Isn't he Canadian?"

So is this proper English?

"If I would have went back to school."

"I shooked his hand."

As a product of backwoods Arkansas, every now & then I find myself lapsing into sheer rusticity in casual speech -- double negatives, use of "ain't," constructions like "everhow" & "everwho," the works. It makes me sound less than learned, obviously, matters of accent aside.

Even so, if I didn't think I was at least as intelligent as you, rest assured that I'd beg someone to kill me.

I love the way people argue about what they took up in college, as if it proves they're better/smarter than the rest of us. OK, I'll try:

My college degree (whatever it was, can't remember) led directly to my awesome job of making love to sexy women and eating chocolate sundaes all day, for eleventy kajillion dollars an hour. Your degree, OTOH, only qualifies you to shovel sh!t at five cents per annum...if you can get a job, since people with your degree have an unemployment rate of 187% (seasonally adjusted). My degree proves I'm teh totally coolest guy in all of explored space, while yours proves just how much you suck. At. Life.

Carry on.

So is this proper English?

"If I would have went back to school."

"I shooked his hand."

My Goodness No Al. Here is how you say it proper like. "If I'd a never dropt out" and "His hand was shooken by me." Al I got a C Minus in English Grammer at Ivy Tech Kokomo and I'd of never wrote much on the Inner Net without my Traneing.

I love the way people argue about what they took up in college, as if it proves they're better/smarter than the rest of us.

Where... did someone do this?

My college degree (whatever it was, can't remember) led directly to my awesome job of making love to sexy women and eating chocolate sundaes all day, for eleventy kajillion dollars an hour. Your degree, OTOH, only qualifies you to shovel sh!t at five cents per annum...if you can get a job, since people with your degree have an unemployment rate of 187% (seasonally adjusted). My degree proves I'm teh totally coolest guy in all of explored space, while yours proves just how much you suck. At. Life.

Too close to home!

Keefe sightings!

Christmas in unruined!

(Or I guess that should be, given the context, "unrurnt" ...)

I love the way people argue about what they took up in college, as if it proves they're better/smarter than the rest of us.

Where... did someone do this?

Isn't that what Ray was doing when he sniffed at an English Literature degree as if were a bad onion? (Remember, kids...if your job doesn't involve suing people, you suck!)