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Yes, yes he was, with Shea Hillenbrand.
In fairness, who hasn't wanted to punch Shea Hillenbrand in the face at one time or another?
MLBTR references Gibbons having incidents with Hillenbrand ("sinking ship", almost fought in the dugout) and Lilly (challenged him on the mound when he was yanked), which I remember, but also one with David Bush. What was that?
but also one with David Bush. What was that?
In other words, the pool of managers is the same as it's always been, although theoretically there could be managers now who make smarter decisions than they did in the 80s.
Out of curiosity, what do you base this statement on?
I would say historically so, as despite all of the statistical breakthroughs in the past generation, managers are horribly risk-averse.
Congratulations on providing a remarkably useless response.
Gibbons and Ferrell were different people
No, that would be Ken Macha.
Art Howe had expressed interest in the position. I don't know if they were actually considering him.
Art Howe had expressed interest in the position.
Also so my stupidity does not go unmarked, I should note that I didn't realize Gibbons and Ferrell were different people.
Is this the same guy that lied about being a veteran?
So, this continues the Jays streak of having only ever hired Bobby Cox as manager who'd managed somewhere else, correct?
I think it is important to note the difference between risk-aversion and doing high-risk things.
Are stolen base attempts down as well, or are percentages just higher? I'm wondering whether this is more of an indication that pitchers/catchers are getting worse at preventing the running game, or an indication that teams are actually being more selective in when they attempt to steal.
but this time they're doing it ironically.
Otherwise I would have had to move one of the many mediocre infielders out of position.
Mel Queen actually qualifies as both a pitcher and outfielder.
The big trend in both leagues though is the use of pitchers. Almost nobody is allowed to throw more than 120 pitches, ever, and most starts don't even get to that level.
Also, few starters are pulled early, ie after 20-40 pitches. The starter job seems now to be 5-7 innings of 95-110 pitches, with little adjustment for performance
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