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However, Rutgers decided to follow a process involving university lawyers, human resources professionals, and outside counsel.
Harveys...read the facts.
that lawyer was fires by Rutgers yesterday
that's his story anyway...
If you take him at face value he was overruled by the university.
Then why not can the president
If he wanted to fire Rice and was overruled by a University lawyer, why did he resign?
But then again 50+ professors had signed a petition asking him to resign, why stay when you're not wanted so to speak
bah, professors always hate the athletic dept. they are just grandstanding
I think it all makes sense if you realize that firing rice left a cash strapped college on the hook for a lot of money...
I don't think he was overruled. I think he agreed to go along with the action plan....a big mistake, but he seems to be getting a raw deal in taking the fall for this debacle.
Pernetti, who is paid $410,000 a year, has been athletic director at Rutgers since 2009 — succeeding Robert Mulchahy, who was fired over spending abuses in the university's football program.
A former Rutgers tight end who later worked for CBS College Sports Network, the 42-year-old Pernetti served as the game analyst for the Rutgers Football Radio Network and had no experience as an athletic director before being tapped to take over the Rutgers program as director of intercollegiate athletics.
His first major hire was Mike Rice, who was offered the position in May 2010 as head basketball coach of Rutgers.[/quotet
nice history. real smart to bring in a guy with no experience; what could go wrong?
As you know, my first instincts when I saw the videotape of Coach Rice's behavior was to fire him immediately.
Were most ADs at major(ish) universities assistant ADs, or maybe ADs at smaller schools, previously?
I have no idea, hence my question.
Three members of the Board of Governors viewed the tape and agreed with the suspension.
When he told writers after a Final Four victory over Kansas at Greensboro in '74 that one of his players had been ready to leave at halftime, most thought he was kidding. He wasn't.
After berating the Warriors at the top of his voice in a halftime harangue, he invited anyone who didn't want to play the second half to get dressed and go home.
Guard Lloyd Walton took exception to that, saying, "We didn't get here because of you, we got here on heart," and started to get dressed.
"I tackled him," McGuire said.
Earlier that season, at a fairly typical Marquette practice, guard Dave Delsman had punched fellow guard Marcus in the face.
"Hey, Dels," McGuire yelled, "if you want to hit somebody, hit me."
Delsman took him at his word and knocked McGuire down.
"Can you imagine that little squirt putting me on the floor?" McGuire marveled. "I should have just hit him on top of the head and been done with it."
Al McGuire might've been going out a loser, but he wasn't leaving without a fight.
Mark Lavin, now living in Omaha, was a walk-on at Marquette during their 1977 championship season. "I was lucky enough to walk on with Al McGuire and walk out with Al McGuire," he said.So at halftime on the night the NCAA tournament first hit Omaha, McGuire stormed into the Civic Auditorium locker room.
He grabbed his stubborn sharpshooter Bernard Toone, shoved him against a wall, stuck a finger in his face and threatened his life.
Then McGuire, the son of an Irish immigrant who grew out of his father's New York bar and into one of the game's finest coaches at Marquette, the technical foul machine who once knelt before officials at DePaul and begged them to take his car, his house, his job, but not this game, the 48-year-old man who announced in the middle of that 1977 campaign that he was calling it quits after the season, slapped Toone hard.
Across the face.
What happened next? Depends on who tells the story. Omahan Mark Lavin, a freshman walk-on for Marquette that year, recalls a few bodies crashing into a table, teammates stepping in to break it up.
What happened next? Everyone agrees. Marquette took the court for the second half of its first-round tussle with Cincinnati and turned a three-point deficit into a 15-point win. Sixteen days later, the Warriors were national champions.
1988: In an NBC interview with Connie Chung, says, "I think that if rape is
inevitable, relax and enjoy it."
I think there were clear standards of behavior that Rice violated and provided just cause for his termination. But the moral outrage is as over-the-top as Rice's antics. The athletes in question are adults who willingly signed up for Rice's antics dependent on a scholarship that Rice controls-- I haven't read closely, but it appears that not only did no one complain, they supported the coach's actions.
I suppose Al McGuire was history's second greatest monster, behind The General.
People who are in dependent situations are willing to tolerate lots of intolerable situations--especially if they've been conditioned for a long time to see such abusive behavior as normal
To believe that this individual was not physically assaulting student athletes--and others--on a regular basis requires an amazing and willful capacity to ignore what is staring you in the face. He has a long, long, long history of physical violence.
Looks like someone's let the inmates out of the Lounge again ...
Is this 'hate Larry Wayne' week at bbtf? He's your prototypical jock and plays the part appropriately. Perhaps we should re-evaluate our vicarious enjoyment of athletics, because both Mike Rice and Chipper Jones are hardly exceptional in their attitudes and actions within their chosen professions
This isn't so much a matter of, "it isn't happening to me so here's my opinion," as it is a matter of "I went through the same stuff, made me a HOFer. These kids should be thankful they have a coach who wants to make them better."
Which doesn't mean it's not a ridiculous opinion to hold.
There are little things called reason and empathy that ideally keeps us from thinking that sort of silliness is necessary.
I'm dependent on a job my boss controls, too. Still, he'd get the axe if he behaved like Rice. But, again, I'd point out that Rice, his boss, and the students were all jocks, not the most civilized members of the human tribe.
The initial reaction and suspension certainly could explain why none of the players said anything. They complain, the coach gets a suspension, then they have to play for him again (assume their scholarship is re-upped). Pretty sure that is going to cut down on the complaints.
They could transfer. A few years back Matt Doherty pretty much got the axe at UNC because of a player mutiny, though that was possible because he had alienated everyone else around him as well.... I am content to let these things play out as they will, and obviously don't buy into the argument that the players were next to indentured servants. Maybe it's not fair that college players don't get paid while those above them roll in the dough, but they are a privileged lot and have been since they started playing prep ball, even earlier now. I pretty much agree with Larry, you put up with some #### to get to a better place down the road.
To be fair I believe five students have transferred out of the program over the last year. However we do not know the reason for the transfers.
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